What would you do to make the VCA site better?

977 Views 17 Replies 12 Participants Last post by John Hennessey, Oct 16, 2003

pj

Discussion Starter · Oct 15, 2003

Pointless? Maybe. But here's my suggestions for making the VCA site a better place for its membership. ViperAlley is not for everyone, but DotOrg could make alot of improvements to make it more attractive for those who use it.

- Appoint a Web Committee that actually governs the site, its members are published and are accountable for their actions to the members. Membership should be limited to, say, 5 people; at least one of whom is elected by members of the VCA who are registered on the site.

- Open a Forum Business forum where suggestions and/or changes to the site itself can be posted by members (can be limited to VCA members to cut down on traffic, if need be). All posts would require some kind of response, either from a member or from the committee itself.

- No more hiddens - the time has past. Anyone with privs on the site should be identified as an Admin or Moderator. Only Admins/Mods have permissions to edit/delete posts.

- Remove the phone number/address requirement for new registrations. Require an ISP email addresses for registration - no free email accounts.

- Since the website actually makes money (and the VCA has the cash); it should hire (or pay) its developers for improvements to the site. When the site was broke, I could justify working for free; but at some point either new willing volunteers need to be recruited or existing should be compensated.

My 2 cents.

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· #2 · Oct 15, 2003

packetjunkie said:
Pointless? Maybe. But here's my suggestions for making the VCA site a better place for its membership. ViperAlley is not for everyone, but DotOrg could make alot of improvements to make it more attractive for those who use it.

- Appoint a Web Committee that actually governs the site, its members are published and are accountable for their actions to the members. Membership should be limited to, say, 5 people; at least one of whom is elected by members of the VCA who are registered on the site.

- Open a Forum Business forum where suggestions and/or changes to the site itself can be posted by members (can be limited to VCA members to cut down on traffic, if need be). All posts would require some kind of response, either from a member or from the committee itself.

- No more hiddens - the time has past. Anyone with privs on the site should be identified as an Admin or Moderator. Only Admins/Mods have permissions to edit/delete posts.

- Remove the phone number/address requirement for new registrations. Require an ISP email addresses for registration - no free email accounts.

- Since the website actually makes money (and the VCA has the cash); it should hire (or pay) its developers for improvements to the site. When the site was broke, I could justify working for free; but at some point either new willing volunteers need to be recruited or existing should be compensated.

My 2 cents.

So now that you stated this.

When is this going to happen over there?

It actually sounds pretty sound MP!! :thumb:

Lawrenzo

· #3 · Oct 15, 2003

packetjunkie said:
Since the website actually makes money (and the VCA has the cash)

My 2 cents.

We still have no proof of that- they could be flat broke and the officers have used all the cash for property in the Bahamas for all we know. They still refuse to release the financials for some odd reason /images/graemlins/moresleep2.gif

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Toby

· #4 · Oct 15, 2003

packetjunkie said:
Pointless? Maybe. But here's my suggestions for making the VCA site a better place for its membership. ViperAlley is not for everyone, but DotOrg could make alot of improvements to make it more attractive for those who use it.

- Appoint a Web Committee that actually governs the site, its members are published and are accountable for their actions to the members. Membership should be limited to, say, 5 people; at least one of whom is elected by members of the VCA who are registered on the site.

- Open a Forum Business forum where suggestions and/or changes to the site itself can be posted by members (can be limited to VCA members to cut down on traffic, if need be). All posts would require some kind of response, either from a member or from the committee itself.

- No more hiddens - the time has past. Anyone with privs on the site should be identified as an Admin or Moderator. Only Admins/Mods have permissions to edit/delete posts.

- Remove the phone number/address requirement for new registrations. Require an ISP email addresses for registration - no free email accounts.

- Since the website actually makes money (and the VCA has the cash); it should hire (or pay) its developers for improvements to the site. When the site was broke, I could justify working for free; but at some point either new willing volunteers need to be recruited or existing should be compensated.

My 2 cents.

looks like MP is looking for some VCA pay back for all his hard work. I agree.

:thumb:

I think they should allow non-viper owners in the club. Ferrari club of America does.

pj

Discussion Starter · #5 · Oct 15, 2003

Actually, I'm not talking about paying me so much as the people who continue to work on the site. Right now I only help out when its really needed and not on an ongoing basis. Tony puts in some hours and should be compensated for his time.

slaughterj

· #6 · Oct 15, 2003

"Appoint a Web Committee that actually governs the site, its members are published and are accountable for their actions to the members. Membership should be limited to, say, 5 people; at least one of whom is elected by members of the VCA who are registered on the site."

Yep, something along these lines would be good.

"Open a Forum Business forum where suggestions and/or changes to the site itself can be posted by members (can be limited to VCA members to cut down on traffic, if need be). All posts would require some kind of response, either from a member or from the committee itself."

It'd need to be actually paid attention to by the officers though...

"No more hiddens - the time has past. Anyone with privs on the site should be identified as an Admin or Moderator. Only Admins/Mods have permissions to edit/delete posts."

I'm in full agreement on this one.

"Remove the phone number/address requirement for new registrations. Require an ISP email addresses for registration - no free email accounts."

I am registered there with a hotmail account, I'm not sure what the issue is with this...

"Since the website actually makes money (and the VCA has the cash); it should hire (or pay) its developers for improvements to the site. When the site was broke, I could justify working for free; but at some point either new willing volunteers need to be recruited or existing should be compensated."

I agree with this as well.

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John Hennessey

· #7 · Oct 15, 2003

1. Remove Jay Herbert as the site administrator.

2. Open the books for all to see.

NOITALL

· #8 · Oct 15, 2003

call an excorcist for flanders

Tie

· #9 · Oct 15, 2003

The web site is about as good as it will ever be, as there is nobody over there with the wit or comedy that you find here. The .org is a reference text for Viper questions, that they do have but that's all.

SEric

· #10 · Oct 15, 2003

Mass firings of everybody above regional president's level. Complete cultural purge and overhaul is the only solution.

Viperjoe

· #11 · Oct 16, 2003

Hell old windbreaker like me I'm easy to please.... pop ups for PM's...shit I had one on there like 2 months old. Being able to gather "poll" info. I know, I know.....that's Corvette forum shit......LOL!!

King GTS

· #12 · Oct 16, 2003

Toby said:
packetjunkie said:

Pointless? Maybe. But here's my suggestions for making the VCA site a better place for its membership. ViperAlley is not for everyone, but DotOrg could make alot of improvements to make it more attractive for those who use it.

- Appoint a Web Committee that actually governs the site, its members are published and are accountable for their actions to the members. Membership should be limited to, say, 5 people; at least one of whom is elected by members of the VCA who are registered on the site.

- Open a Forum Business forum where suggestions and/or changes to the site itself can be posted by members (can be limited to VCA members to cut down on traffic, if need be). All posts would require some kind of response, either from a member or from the committee itself.

- No more hiddens - the time has past. Anyone with privs on the site should be identified as an Admin or Moderator. Only Admins/Mods have permissions to edit/delete posts.

- Remove the phone number/address requirement for new registrations. Require an ISP email addresses for registration - no free email accounts.

- Since the website actually makes money (and the VCA has the cash); it should hire (or pay) its developers for improvements to the site. When the site was broke, I could justify working for free; but at some point either new willing volunteers need to be recruited or existing should be compensated.

My 2 cents.

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looks like MP is looking for some VCA pay back for all his hard work. I agree.

:thumb:

I think they should allow non-viper owners in the club. Ferrari club of America does.

I'd have to disagree with you on that one Toby. I think you should have to own a Viper. I never knew the Ferrari Club allowed you to be a member without actually owning a Ferrari. That's different..

NOITALL

· #13 · Oct 16, 2003

why would a non-ferrari owner want to join a ferrari club? Talk about feeling like a tag-along.

GTS Dean

· #14 · Oct 16, 2003

And I agree with Trey as well. As a matter of fact, I was at the very first national VCA organizational meeting near Detroit. The question of "associate" or non-Viper owners joining was roundly dissed by all in attendance. We did agree that the Regions could have associate membership if they desired.

Flanders was actually a big help getting the club started, but I gather he felt really dissed when (almost) nobody (Ferguson) would support his member status. Sorry dude. No Viper, no VCA for you.

Toby

· #15 · Oct 16, 2003

I checked with Ferrari..I guess you do have to own one

I do think in the past they did let non owners in the club or it could be another national Ferrari organization.

oh well. I will shut up now.

Viperjoe

· #16 · Oct 16, 2003

Toby said:
I checked with Ferrari..I guess you do have to own one

I do think in the past they did let non owners in the club

Until a bunch of non Ferrari folks came in and started talking rude shit and all....kinda like here1 LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GTS Dean

· #17 · Oct 16, 2003

Toby -

We also discussed 'in-between-Vipers' continuing membership. The best I can recall, we agreed to continue for up to 1 year past the sale date, but my memory is a little fuzzy on that one. However, it's no tellin' what the disconnected "leaders" have done with the original agreement in the interim.

John Hennessey

· #18 · Oct 16, 2003

One thing that everyone should understand is that the VCA is not owned by its members - it is owned by Dodge. Dodge has subsidized the VCA from day one and as such they will maintain 100% control of the VCA until some point they decide they dont want or need to.

Everything that GTS Dean has said is right on. I was there with him when the VCA got going and to see a cool thing turn into a big political cronnie deal really sucks.

I think it would be very appropriate to put together a short list of suggested changes, get everyone here who agrees to sign it, then send it to all the national VCA officers along with Darrel Jackson, the Dodge VP.

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