I finally convinced my dad of getting the Viper GTS. We got it about 2 weeks ago. It is a Black 2000 GTS with about 9,000 miles on it. It runs great. Loving it. Absoluetly the best bang for the buck. He has rarely driven it. I think it is more like my car. i pay for the costs of the car excluding insurance. I will try to post some pics tonight. Anyways, the reason I fell in love with this beautiful cars was when that 2001 Venom 650R racing me in my 3000gt. It was an ass-whoopin I will never forget and ever since then I looked at Vipers differently. Who is that anyways here in Phoenix. I love your car. I know it is a 2001 GTS. It is a black 650R with silver stripes and the license plate says "DOT COM" I would love to meet up with you sometime. Just incase you dont remember, Ive got the two 3000gt's which you beat one really bad on Pecos Road. I have been talking about your car to everybody. Ill never forget that day, and thanks for the experience. Very bad ending but some bad things cause much greater things in this case, owning a Viper. :nod: