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First off I must say that everyone I met were extremely nice and cordial. Reminded me when we use to run in the Viper Days series, great people, great fun, everyone helping each other out. Wish I would have felt better to hang out with everyone and have some nighttime smack activity.

Jeff, Chris, Scott and myself came down in a borrowed cargo van and trailer that we bolted 2 bench seats in from a Chevy Astro van. It wasn’t so bad of a ride but it was definitely limited in the luxury department. I called it the Frozen Fuselage Tour. I got sick on the way down while slamming red bulls and staying behind the wheel for 12 hours straight. It was a Sudaphedrine weekend. The guys all got a little sick also. Guerilla Racing at its finest.

Ron Sr. Don Sleik and Paul Nicotra all had flights in on Friday.

We wanted to go to the dyno but everyone had to get some rest.

Ron Sr. - Jeff - Paul

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We came down to San Antonio with the 6 speed in the Stryker. We wanted to compete in every event that we could and also test as much as we could. After running in the street tire shootout, I learned that I needed a gas pedal feel that has greater resistance than the one in the Stryker. The spring that is in the car is way too weak to gauge slippage and be able to compensate quick enough. Also my 6 speed skills need a lot of work and I understand what everyone talks about on the boards about Drag Racing the Viper with a 6 speed. It sure is an art that takes time to learn. The 2 speed? Well that’s like going out for groceries. The best time we pulled with the 6 speed and street tires was an 11.1 @ around 146 or 147mph.

We wasted beautiful testing time Saturday afternoon trying to run in the street tire shootout. When we finally got a chance to put the slicks on and test with the 6 speed it was around 8:00pm and F was it cold! I think it was in the 30’s.We made a couple of passes and I was spinning the tires all the way through third gear. During these runs we also started to test our launch control. The best time with the slicks and the 6 speed was a 10.1 @ 143mph. with a 1.38 60ft. My first 6 speed passes with slicks and testing in over 4 years. Not so bad. We figured the track had went away and we had to leave quickly to install the 2 speed.

6 speed / slicks / launch control testing / 10.3 @ 137mph

6 speed / slicks / launch control testing / 10.1 @ 143mph

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We packed it up and arrived at North Star Dodge in San Antonio around 9:30pm. Len McDonald (Viper Tech and one hell of a great guy ) at North Star was our savior allowing us to utilize the facility to change out the 6 speed and install the 2 speed. I really enjoyed talking with you that night Len. If you ever get up around Chicago it’s entertainment time for sure. Jeff and Chris (SVS Tech’s) did such a good job this weekend that if it wasn’t for your guys hard work we wouldn’t even get to the line. We finished up around 2:00am and headed back to the Valencia.

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Sunday we arrived around 12:00 noon and unpacked. No time for testing just straight to racing. We went up for qualifying and pulled the fastest time of the weekend on our first run. 9.16 @ 154.32 with a 1.37 60ft. We made 3 runs after that, 9.27 @ 150.96mph, 9.22 @ 151.57mph and 9.25 @ 150.20mph. The best 60 ft. was a 1.34. I was wondering why the track closed so fast and didn’t allow us time to test? Oh well we will get another day.

We removed some weight from the Stryker TT by placing a carbon fiber hood from our 96 RT10 Road Race Viper. Other weight came from removing necessary equipment needed for racing at the salt flats. We removed 180lbs total.

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Len McDonald helped keep me in the right frame of mind and gave excellent coaching.

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I love my job!

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Notice anything strange going on during the InCar Video?

In Car / 2speed / 9.16 @ 154.32

Side angle/ 2speed / 9.16 @ 154.32

[image]http://www.supervipersystems.com/SanAntonio/SanAntonio9.1.jpg[/image]


What happened to the 8’s ?????????????? Believe me I’m scratching my head and wondering the whole time I was there. Many people wanted to see it. I’m not really interested in bragging rights only progress. I can tell you that we took 180# out of the Stryker before coming down to San Antonio. We made improvements in our torque converter. We utilized launch control to build the boost on the line. We think we have figured out some of the data and will continue to formulate a plan until next time.

I didn't have a group picture but this is from the standing mile in Nebraska.
Front is Paul, Jr. and Chris - Back is Jeff, Don and Jim H.


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Very cool Trophies!

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Thanks David Boggs for putting on the event! Everyone was a winner for showing up and having a great time.

jR.
 

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Great to see you guys back down in Texas again! It's been a long time since Viper Days first ran at TWS in 1997 and we first met. Congrats on a fine showing at the strip.
 

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Jr

you made a great showing! GLad things worked out for you guys to make the trip. pleasure meeting you and glad you took something home with you. Hopefully you guys will hang around the drag racing scene to keep things interesting.
 

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Sumbuddy tell me where the payout window is on my bets placed on SVS!!!

NICE!!


Congrads Jr. Sr. and EVERYBODY at SVS on a nice showing!!

Jay K.
 

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GTS Dean said:
Great to see you guys back down in Texas again! It's been a long time since Viper Days first ran at TWS in 1997 and we first met. Congrats on a fine showing at the strip.
Dean, us Road Racers have to stick together! Great talking with ya down in San Antonio. It was a pleasure meeting everyone and feeling all the camaraderie. It was really cool waiting in line for the street tire shootout and greeting Yourself, Smokin, Anthony, Lawboy, Big Carrot, Tom Welch and talking throughout the weekend. Next time I will make it to the nighttime activities and get to know everyone a little better.

The guys at RSI were very professional and a pleasure to race against. Shared some very interesting stories with them.

The guy to watch out for is Moundir, once he gets his DLM he surely will be one aggressive Mofo. /images/graemlins/nana

Was well worth every minute getting to this event. Hope to make it to Florida.

Hey Danny Bodds what was with the Roy Mistack Jr.? /images/graemlins/laughing.gif I have dealt with that my whole life. :bonk: It's a hard one to nail down. Just for the record it's pronounced Meeshack (Misjak) Sorta why I like just going by Jr.

Thanks again David.
 

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The guy to watch out for is Moundir, once he gets his DLM he surely will be one aggressive Mofo. /images/graemlins/nana
Funny how you got that impression of me from a simple hello :lolcry: I really wish I would have gotten the chance to bs with you some more. It was a busy day sunday and you guys did kick some serious Hennessey /images/graemlins/carrot I'm commend you for coming all that way to race the man in his own backyard :eatpop: Too bad he could not bring his 8 sec car out /images/graemlins/surrender Same track same day, you guys would have wasted that car on boost only of course :kick:
If I see you in the fl event, I hope we can party at night this time. You missed some legendary shit dude :cheers:
 

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Moundir,
If we can make it down, I will surely make you crawl back to your room from the bar. :nod: I won't miss my chance again. :cheers:

Here's some info to chew on:

Watch the 9.16 In Car video.

At about 90ft...... notice the change?, right before the shift into 2nd.

We just figured out what it was last night.

That was our 8. :doh:

Wanna take a guess? :eatpop:
 

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Moundir said:
SVS Turbo said:
The guy to watch out for is Moundir, once he gets his DLM he surely will be one aggressive Mofo. /images/graemlins/nana
Funny how you got that impression of me from a simple hello :lolcry: I really wish I would have gotten the chance to bs with you some more. It was a busy day sunday and you guys did kick some serious Hennessey /images/graemlins/carrot I'm commend you for coming all that way to race the man in his own backyard :eatpop: Too bad he could not bring his 8 sec car out /images/graemlins/surrender Same track same day, you guys would have wasted that car on boost only of course :kick:
If I see you in the fl event, I hope we can party at night this time. You missed some legendary shit dude :cheers:
Hey Moundir - you are right, SVS by far had the quickest car there and nothing else was even close. But nothing came close to our 8.93 record ET either, so its all good as far as I'm concerned. We are happy with having our SRT running bests of 9.75 ET and 152.2 mph. Hopefully we can match up one of our auto Vipers with the SVS car at an upcoming event. Moundir - keep up the good work on the party boy patrol and leave the racing to the racers, thanks.
 

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Dont get all bent out of shape John, you should have brought your 8 sec auto, not talk all the shit you did online and not show up to race in your own backyard to boot:lame: As far as throwing cheap shots at me, I did what I said I would do. I flew in from Ny to show support to my boy David, and to party my ass off /images/graemlins/freak I will be racing at the next event, both street and track /images/graemlins/drive
 
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Actually JM, shouldn't it be more like this: Leave the ripping off Viper owners to me and the racing to you. Now that sounds better. Dude, don't be a soar loser.Your cars ain't shit. If you are a stand up guy you wouldn't be looking over your shoulder scared someone will slap you in the head. JM, if you are ever on the east coast NY/NJ and wanna race your Viper.I'll smoke your ass.No Viper but it's in your league of 8 second cars. :rolleyes: /images/graemlins/jackoff
 

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Man I watched it about 10x and still dont see it, what did you do???
Man everything happened so fast on Sunday and we didn't have time to analyze all the data. Then they closed the track and there was no reason for us to look at what information we had gathered. I didn't even look at the InCar videos until we were somewhere in Missouri on the way home. That is when I went HEY! /images/graemlins/shocked What the hell is this? I can be the driver and multi task in road racing(make determinations and changes from analyzing current conditions) but in drag racing we are all a little new and this event was an enormous learning curve.

I was a little bummed about all the hype on the internet that was created about us racing against Hennessey. Then there was nothing that appeared. :ugh: We busted our ass to get down there expecting at least 2 or 3 of John's TT setups to compete. Even if they were running nitrous so what? It still would have been great racing for the people who showed up. I'm not sure but the 8.93 Viper may no longer have nitrous and would have been a poor showing for John? Or the owner just feels like he has nothing to prove or maybe he was just unable to make it. I was under the impression that John had these customers cars at his fingertips? /images/graemlins/confused

We were spinning the tires out to about 90ft. Then when they finally grabbed(You can hear it right before the shift into second) we got full traction. I had no idea this was happening while making the runs. Every run reacted the same way. We didn't have my buddy Mike Q with us who helped out when we tested at Byron in Illinois. Mike is an experienced drag racer and all he did is watch the tires and handle the pressures. All we did in San Antonio is keep the pressures the same for every run, which was a couple lbs. higher than what we were running at Byron. The guys that were with us either were already multi-tasking or unaware of what it was they should be studying. Everybody did everything they possibly could and believe me we all learned HUGE!

We also were testing with the launch control that came to have a serious effect on our spinning the tires. This is good information for anyone that is going to try launch control for spooling up the turbo's. We had the launch revs set at 3500. But the problem occurred when we built 14psi at the line and blew through the 3500 directly to 4800 at the launch causing massive wheel spin all the way out to 90ft. Now take the fact that we took out 180lbs of weight in the car and we are running 850lbs springs in the rear. The rebound after the initial launch squat was too quick coupled with the over amount of power at take off gave us our problem tire spin. It is quite weird how we improved slightly on our 60ft. times even while spinning the tires. We had traction but it was not optimum. When I went over all the data with Mike Q he said if you hooked up you would be pulling the front tires 6" off the ground for the first 60 to 90ft and be getting into th 1.2's. That's what I want to see happen! /images/graemlins/thumbs2 An interesting note is if someone would have showed up that was able to run a 9.0 or 9.1 we would have got beat because of inexperience and improper setup.

Everyone goes through their learning curves and in drag racing it most definitely is a different game of chess. Squeezing out a couple tenths in road racing is much easier and as I'm beginning to fall in love with drag racing it sure has its frustrations. I'm quite positive RSI will be in the hunt once they get their 2 speed figured out. After watching the Video of the RSI 9.45 run I have to give gobs of props to whomever was shifting that 6 speed. Is that Albert Choubler? Hope I spelled it right. Damn dude I need some lessons.

Overall it was great taking top honors and everyone in our camp was very excited.

I guess you could say ........We messed with Texas:nod:.....just a little bit. :burn:
 

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Man I watched it about 10x and still dont see it, what did you do???
I was a little bummed about all the hype on the internet that was created about us racing against Hennessey. Then there was nothing that appeared. :ugh: We busted our ass to get down there expecting at least 2 or 3 of John's TT setups to compete. Even if they were running nitrous so what? It still would have been great racing for the people who showed up. I'm not sure but the 8.93 Viper may no longer have nitrous and would have been a poor showing for John? Or the owner just feels like he has nothing to prove or maybe he was just unable to make it. I was under the impression that John had these customers cars at his fingertips? /images/graemlins/confused
Jr. dont sell yourself short, you were smart to bring the car and lay down the smack no matter who else was there. We wanted to bring the 8.93 car but you are correct that the owner did not feel the need to prove anything. It still has NOS on it, but had we been able to bring it to the event, I would have gladly run you without it. FYI, we ran 8.93 in May at the same track when it was 95 deg. I did post a few weeks before the event that the 8.93 car was not going to be there. Dont worry too much about that car as it may or may not be at future events. We have 2 more TT/auto Vipers in the pipeline and will have them at 2004 events. We also plan to match up at a few standing mile events. We have a dedicated shop car under construction so we can control which events it goes to. What I want to know is how in the heck do you get a 1.38 60 ft. out of a 6-speed? Yet another very impressive number from you guys! Too bad we were not able to match up your TT with our SRT TT, 6-speed vs 6-speed. Maybe next time.
 

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Jr. dont sell yourself short, you were smart to bring the car and lay down the smack no matter who else was there.
Maybe next time.
Sell myself short? /images/graemlins/laughing.gif I was only stating that you created a lot of hype about racing and didn't come through with anything. Only testing your SRT.

John, I don't believe you raced anyone heads up. Or even participated in the event for that matter.

Lay down the smack? I was interested in racing, not smacking.

Maybe next time? Yeah sure maybe next time.

Oh... by the way... uh... thanks for the hug. Was that because we didn't beat your 8.93? or was that like one of those special hugs from the Godfather?

What was it that you sprayed on the intercooler of the SRT at the line? I seen your guy carrying around that shiny silver cannister and was just wondering?

Are you bringing anything to Florida to make sure that those 8 sec Vettes don't clean up for the overall? :leaving:
 

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Jr. dont sell yourself short, you were smart to bring the car and lay down the smack no matter who else was there.
Maybe next time.
Sell myself short? /images/graemlins/laughing.gif I was only stating that you created a lot of hype about racing and didn't come through with anything. Only testing your SRT.

John, I don't believe you raced anyone heads up. Or even participated in the event for that matter.

Lay down the smack? I was interested in racing, not smacking.

Maybe next time? Yeah sure maybe next time.

Oh... by the way... uh... thanks for the hug. Was that because we didn't beat your 8.93? or was that like one of those special hugs from the Godfather?

What was it that you sprayed on the intercooler of the SRT at the line? I seen your guy carrying around that shiny silver cannister and was just wondering?

Are you bringing anything to Florida to make sure that those 8 sec Vettes don't clean up for the overall? :leaving:
Dont sweat it Jr. There will be plenty of future drag racing events. Bring your SRT TT next time and we can match them up. Who knows, we might even have an SRT TT / auto for you to run against.

FYI, there is going to be a standing mile race in TX in Feb., 2004.

For somebody who ran so fast, you sure do a lot of whining.

John Hennessey
First and Only Viper in the 8's: 8.93 @ 149.65
First and Only Viper SRT in the 9's: 9.75 @ 148.7 (no NOS)

PS - we broke our diff. in testing and didnt get it fixed until after the eliminations started. That's racin'.
 

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I can see Jr's point here, though, John. You made a big deal about Jr making the trip down to Texas and then didn't run against him. It's not like they live just around the block and made a day trip out of it like you did. Seems everyone likes putting down the smack as long as it's in their back yard. Jr. sucked it up and made the trip and then what...?

If you are going to taunt people into making the race, then be prepared for some ribbing if you can't deliver.

FYI, there is going to be a standing mile race in TX in Feb., 2004.
Seems to me, you owe SVS one.... ;)
 

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Packet - I hear you and SVS. I did post that our customer decided not to ship his car to/from PA a few weeks before the race. Nothing I could do about that.

If SVS was coming to race me and me only, they could have left their 6-speed in the car and just raced us all day Sunday if that was their main reason for coming to Texas. We had a stock motor SRT TT that ran 9.7-9.8 @ 148-152 that would have given their 10.1 @ 144 6-speed set-up a few good runs.

Here is my offer to Jr. We have a shop car under construction and it should be ready to race some time in the Spring of 2004. I will be more than glad to bring it to an event at Byron, IL in the Spring/Summer. Does that seem fair?
 
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