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First of all let me thank everyone who helped me along the way. My wife and children for letting me go. My dad who flew in from Dallas to help me drive and be a gopher for what ever needed to be taken care of. How many fathers do you know that would drive with you for 60hours and 3500 miles in five days? My good neighbor Darreld and my brother Trevor who came to help out any way they could and took some excellent video.

When we got to Texas on friday(24 hours of straight driving) we went to a friends house named Bill Thompson. What a great and generous guy! He took time out of his day and looked at my car and helped me set it up for drag racing. His son Mike took the transmission out friday and put a new slave cylinder in it and put it back together in a matter of a couple of hours. I then had to tune the car for the elevation change and at 9:00pm we were headed to san antonio. We arrived at 1:00am at the hotel and got to sleep at 2:00am. The alarm clock comes on at 7:00am. We get up and headed to the dyno. There we meet several viper guys and hooked up with 1tony1. Tony is one fine individual and a great driver as well. We left the dyno at 12:30pm and then we are off to the drag strip for the street tire shootout.

The street tire shootout had about 12-13 cars racing. I thought we would be able to have plenty of time to tune on the drag strip but I was winning races so we had to keep the street tires on. We also found a way of maximizing the power of my car at the drag strip but we needed parts. We couldn't get any parts until sunday. Oh well. We stayed there until about 9:00pm.

We got up and went to the strip on sunday at 10:30am. We put the slicks and skinnies on and I went out to the staging lanes and proceeded to make my first pass on them. It was a wild ride and I didn't particularly want to learn how to run on slicks during the event so I asked Tony if he would drive. We put all the parts on the car until about 12:00pm and Tony made his first run. The maximizing worked but it wasn't fine tuned so one time it would run great and the next time it would run okay. We then ran about 4 times and they ranged from 10.11 to 10.4x. I want everyone to understand that tony had never driven my car before until he took it down the strip for the first time. He is incredible to be able to help me put all the parts that needed to be installed then hop into the car and drive it.

At the end of the event I was furtunate enough to win a few trophies. Street tire shootout winner w/10.89 @143.x, Fastest Street MPH 143.x, Fastest ET on street tires 10.89, Most powerful Roe SC'er 715RWHP, Fastest Roe SC'er 10.11, and 3rd Place in 9.96-10.49 class. THe only reason I got the last trophy was because there was only three participants in our class. I also won $500 with a pair of pilots. I was also wondering about the other contingency prizes from unitrax, elite motorsports, and others. Does anybody know anything about these?

It was great to meet everyone and put some names to faces. I really enjoyed the events and hope to be able to attend more.

Our way home was pretty uneventful except for the snowy passes in utah and 24hours of straight driving that were a little hairy.

One last thing. JonB at the parts rack is the man!!!!!!!! I was driving in colorado through the mountains trying to get a slave cylinder ordered because the dealer ordered the wrong part and Jonb came through in a very big way. We would not have had a successful trip without that slave cylinder. It was truely a partsrack event for me!

As for my car: My car has a nine second pass in it. It is just fine tuning my new methanol/water injection system(intercooler if you will). The MPH is there(145) and the MPH would have probably been around 147MPH with it fine tuned but that is all alot of big if's. However, I will do what it takes to get there. We now have the ability to turn up the boost so we have quit a bit of power still available if we need it. I don't see any reason why we can't run 150+ MPH in the 1/4 mile and run deep into the nines but only time will tell.

I am sorry if I missed anyone.

Thanks to Dr Roof for a great event!!
 

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Congrats man - and good to hear you got some benefit from that "intercooler" ....you are right - some good tuning and precise dialing in with it will get you what you're looking for.... just make sure you get hold a knock sensor e.g. the "Safeguard" - it'll make tuning it safer and easier. /images/graemlins/thumb1

There's definitely a 9 in that Roe SC car /images/graemlins/supergrin.gif
 

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Todd, great to see you and thanks for making the long trip. Your car was way impressive.

Pull the wing off the car for the track and put some softer springs on the car and you might find that extra .12 you are looking for.
 

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Top marks John - that's good info!


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Utahviper - the water needs to be injected at over 100psi to atomise properly and be as effective as it can be. I'm sure you're onto that if you are looking at marketing a product. :thumb:
 

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My setup will cool the intake charge more than the intercooler that sean will offer.

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My car has stock displacement and is running 8.5lbs of boost at my current elevation and approximately 10.5lbs at sea level.

Thanks for the comments.
 

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Utah nice meeting you man, you sure have one sick puppy there /images/graemlins/yes Will you make the fl event? If so that will be your chance at that 9sec pass my friend /images/graemlins/dude
 

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Utah, how does your methanol/water injection system work exactly? Are there separate reservoirs for each? Where are they mounted? Does the system work all the time or do you activate it from the cockpit? How often do you have to refill it? Details man! :burn:
 

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thanks for making the trip you did very well and your car is very impressive!!!

you put a spanking on me in the street tire shoot-out!! your car is the target at the next event. get ready for the drive back to florida!
 

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The system is turned on inside the cock pit. The system is activated when boost hits 2lbs(it is adjustable) and then is sequential from there based on the duty cycle of the injector. As the boost increases so does the injector duty cyle; the water/methanol is then increase upto a desired level. The desired level is based on your actual rwhp.

When do you fill it up? It depends on how you drive it. Normally daily drivers should get about 2-3 fill ups to one 3 gallon tank of w/meth. My tank is installed in my rear facia with a filling cap by the stock radio amplifier.

This system is going to be awesome for the creampuffs and those wanting to run more boost. No more adding boost a pumps, complete fuel systems, or bigger injectors. The methanol system is a fuel system in and of itself. Not only does it cool the air but it also adds fuel. For example, if you were running 6lbs of boost and your a/f was 12:1 and decided to run the water/meth system your a/f could be 10:1. You would then use the vec2 to trim the fuel out to 11.-12.1:1 or whatever you want it to be. If you run out of methanol on the road you simply turn the system off and run the car you were using before the methanol.

Now to the good stuff. My intake temp's in 3rd and 4th gear were 200-225 degrees. That is very hot but I am also running 8.5lbs of boost at my elevation. After the installation of the system my intake temps are between 90-120 degrees depending on the gear. According to the kenne bell website every 10 degrees drop in intake temp is worth 1% HP increase. This is like driving your car during a super cold day all the time. I was also able to increase the timing advance to give me more power as well. Before I installed the system I ran 134MPH in LVMS and in san antonio I ran 145MPH. The elevation change did give me some increase in MPH but probably 3-4 at the most.

The system still has some bugs to be worked out but we are going to sell this through authorized dealers only. There will be tuning that will have to be done. It will not be a simple bolt on kit and away you go. It will require a very capable tuner to make sure the a/f are at safe levels and that the timing advance is also at safe levels. This is the reason why we are only going to sell them through authorized dealers.
 

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Todd -
I'm glad you had a safe trip back to the beautiful state of Utah. Congrats again on all your successes in SA. :clap: :clap: :clap: You truly have a very supportive Dad, as well as great friends who, from your story, helped make it all possible.

Thank you for making the trek down to SA, with that wicked beast of a Viper. (I love the look with the wing)!! /images/graemlins/thumbs2 You certainly helped make this event what it was!!! It was a pleasure meeting you, and I hope to see you again in the near future. /images/graemlins/thumbs2
 
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