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Snake Bitten\'s Expert Take on Viper Exterior Care

My poser polishing skillz documented:

1. Claybar your entire car, you can get claybars at any Auto Zone, Pep Boys, etc...the brand doesn't matter. USE PLENTY OF LUBRICANT! A large spray bottle with some Dawn dishwashing soap works great...Wait until you see the contaminants the claybar pulls off...and "renew" the claybar often, just stretch it, reshape it like Silly Putty...

2. Swirls...These are scratches in your clear coat...The easiest way to get rid of them is with a random orbital...I trust only one...The Porter Cable...It's about $125...and spring for the "velcro foam pad adapter kit"...Very important, you're gonna need it. Throw the pads that come with it in the trash, especially the wool pad.

3. To remove fine scratches and swirls, you'll need 6" YELLOW FOAM PADS... from www.topoftheline.com ...get about three of them. Also, you'll need a bottle of 3M Fine Cut Rubbing Compound. Put about a quarter sized amount of the 3M on the yellow pad, and at about 4000 rpms, work a 2 ft x 2ft area of your finish...(Tape up any crevices, like the black screens in the hood, this dust gets everywhere)...Keep the buffer moving, but go slow, and press hard enough to compress the YELLOW pad to half it's thickness...and when you think you are going slow enough, go slower...Heat (buffing pad) and abrasive (3M compound) are the only things that will remove swirls/scratches.

4. Once you have peeled all of the swirls/scratches out of your clearcoat, you'll need the 6" BLACK FOAM PADS from www.topoftheline.com ...Also, a bottle of 3M 3M Perfect-It™ III Finishing Glaze...for either DARK cars or for LIGHT cars...they make both...Now do the same as you did with the compound, only at 6000 rpms, again, pressing just hard enough to compress the pad to half it's thickness, which won't be as hard as the yellow pad was. This takes the finest of flaws out, and smooths your clearcoat to near perfection.

5. That should have taken you most of a weekend...if you stayed at it...You cannot fuck this up with the Porter Cable...trust me...you could stand on that buffer with the beforementioned foam pads and not hurt your clearcoat...You have three coats of clear from the factory...15 years worth, if you did this every freakin winter...

6. Now, all you need is to apply many coats of whatever polish/wax you prefer, and when I say many, I mean at least 20...You can use the Porter Cable and WHITE FOAM PADS from www.topoftheline.com ...These are finishing pads and softer than baby's ass (I have this on good authority from Father McOnlee, down at St. Catherines Middle School)Once you get a routine down, applying and removing one coat takes maybe 20 minutes...So instead of planting your ass in front of the bigscreen after dinner, apply a coat of polish to the Viper...Think of it as cardio...

7. I've used Meguires, Mothers, Zaino, etc...Really doesn't matter...Here's the super secret sensitive secret: Apply a coat of Pinnacle Spray Wax in between each coat of polish...and before you take your baby out, and after you put it up... you can get the Pinnacle Spray from...you guessed it... www.topoftheline.com ...I recommend these people because their service is phenomenal...period.

8. NEVAR! Use anything but foam pads, or MicroFiber towels on your finish...The Viper's clearcoat is very soft, and scratches easy...

9. Dusting...California Duster...Buy a new one every summer, use the old one on your wheels to remove the bulk of the brake dust. Next summer, same deal, buy a new one, old one goes to the wheels, the old old one goes either to the wifeys car or the trash...

10. Now, you've got several coats of polish/wax and Pinnacle applied...Your baby is looking pretty sweet...Take a brand new WHITE foam pad and at about 4000 rpms, go over the entire finish...yep...just a dry white finishing pad...Now do this after every Pinnacle application to really make your finish pop...

I present to you, exhibit A: My big black car

[image]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/215043/Tintedmarkerlense.jpg[/image]

Glen (Confrontational) and I did this ACR in one day...and it had NEVER been waxed before!

[image]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/215043/JessesACR.jpg[/image]

Rich (V10 MOJO) pulls a close "second"! /images/graemlins/laughing.gif

[image]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/215043/RichsNewTop3.jpg[/image]

My RT has 21,500 miles on it!!! :nod:

[image]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/215043/VECUU-AmazingpicofmyRT3.JPG[/image]
[image]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/215043/EUUOT-AmazingpicofmyRT6.JPG[/image]
[image]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/215043/MyRTatMoparsonthePark.jpg[/image]
[color:"blue"]Edited by CitySnake with SnakeBitten's permission. [/color]
 

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So, when you visit Texas, you will come over and we will work on mine, right?
Not a prob...I am not cheap though...Or rather, I don't drink cheap Tequilla... :rofl:
 

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getbit said:
So, when you visit Texas, you will come over and we will work on mine, right?
Not a prob...I am not cheap though...Or rather, I don't drink cheap Tequilla... :rofl:


OK, that's a big fat lie, I'll drink cheap Tequilla...but only if it's all that is left! /images/graemlins/supergrin.gif
 

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Re: The finish on Snake Bitten\'s RT

Great post Gerald. Next time, please note barometric pressure and windspeed. /images/graemlins/laughing.gif

Seriously, that is amazing. A guy who I work with paints, and he was floored by the shine. I will be printing this off and hanging it the garage.

Thanks Gerald! :thumb:
 

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Re: The finish on Snake Bitten\'s RT

Thank you for taking the time to write up your detailing procedures.

I was already aware and have the 3M products you mentioned. I just need to buy the Porter Cable buffer.

Lowe's has a Porter Cable orbital sander/polisher. Is it the same? You can buy them at Lowe's for about $100.00.

BTW, What ended up being the verdict on the Durango tranny?
 

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Re: The finish on Snake Bitten\'s RT

Whats this? A poser pic thread of sweet shiny paint?

mind if I join in? /images/graemlins/laughing.gif

I use a Craftsman orbital buffer and Maguires products. I also use eagle one "wet" to keep the paint clean before the cover goes back on.

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The Porter cable RULZ!!!
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I use the PC buffer all the time but usually don't use any pressure other than the wieght of the buffer. I also am unsure about your rpm settings. My PC has a dial that goes from 1 to 6 and I am usually at 3.5 to 4.5 on the speed. How does this relate to your rpm settings? I have also found the the black looks milky if I use anything but the finishing pads(softest). Cars look great...
 

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Gerald, Rumor has it that my car will be delivered this month..Can I schedule you for the weekend of March 27th /images/graemlins/supergrin.gif ?
I'll even throw a set of TD Roller Rockers for your time and effort /images/graemlins/laughing.gif

:cheers:


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Re: The finish on Snake Bitten\'s RT

Snake Bitten said:
Snake Bitten said:
getbit said:
So, when you visit Texas, you will come over and we will work on mine, right?
Not a prob...I am not cheap though...Or rather, I don't drink cheap Tequilla... :rofl:


OK, that's a big fat lie, I'll drink cheap Tequilla...but only if it's all that is left! /images/graemlins/supergrin.gif
Of course, the tequilla will flow after the work is done. We all know what happens when the alcohol is finished before the work is.

Nice post. Thanks for taking the time. When I get some of my own I'll give this a try and see how the car looks.

Question, do you buy your towels at Top of the Line also? If so, which ones do you recommend? I've tried several from Griot's Garage and even custom sewn Fieldcrest Charisma and all seem to leave fine scratches at one point of another.
 

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Yellow Fever said:
Gerald, Rumor has it that my car will be delivered this month..Can I schedule you for the weekend of March 27th /images/graemlins/supergrin.gif ?
I'll even throw a set of TD Roller Rockers for your time and effort /images/graemlins/laughing.gif

:cheers:


Jeff
Shit, for a set of T&Ds, I'd almost fly out to polish your car!
 

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No shit Jeff.. That is a crazy offer.
/images/graemlins/laughing.gif Actually Bruce the Rockers are Geralds.. Gerald wanted Heffner to ship the rockers to my place since he is never home to accept packages.

I figure I'll hold them hostage until he waxes my RT /images/graemlins/smiles


:cheers:

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Roadkill said:
No shit Jeff.. That is a crazy offer.
/images/graemlins/laughing.gif Actually Bruce the Rockers are Geralds.. Gerald wanted Heffner to ship the rockers to my place since he is never home to accept packages.

I figure I'll hold them hostage until he waxes my RT /images/graemlins/smiles


:cheers:

Jeff
Well guess what, my RT has been here for 5 years. :fist: :rofl: :rofl:
 

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Re: The finish on Snake Bitten\'s RT

Gerald, I think your post is worth making a "sticky". Unless you have an issue, I'm gonna tack it to the Viper Discussion area for a while.

I'm in the midst of using your technique with Griot's products. So far...so good.
 
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