Subject: Re: SANDHILLS 1 MILE SHOOTOUT AND O.R.R. BY SVS
Numbers and stats for the 1 mile shootout.
I laughed so hard when I read some of the rhetoric based misguided information and propaganda assumptions that have been placed on where the Stryker is at for Hp numbers.
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==>Jr, everybody has been waiting for you guys to get back from the race to hear your take on the standing mile competition and open road race. Everybody has been curious just how much power you guys were running.
It seemed quite obvious that in order to place themselves at a level of feeling better about their own positions people love to discredit others.
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==>I think you have misinterpreted the intentions of all the speculation.
==>Everybody here including myself has said the SVS turbo car is the ultimate measuring stick by which all other boosted cars are measured. There is no question who has the most powerful forced induction fed Viper. It is definitively SVS and has been all along.
My idea is always to give credit where credit is due and figure out my own solutions to my own problems. I always try to shake the winners hand because the energy they have is what I didn't have at that moment, and then take it with me, not as resentment but as energy to learn from and race another day.
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==>I would have shaken your hand had I not had to return home for work on saturday if we were still friends like we used to be.
To try to make something sound like it isn't, just to elevate my position, is quite mental to me.
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==>You kind of lost me on this one.
SVS planned and new EXACTLY who our competition was for the Sandhills 1 mile shootout.
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==>So are you saying I was your competition? Why, thank you, that is very flattering, you are such a great competitor and gracious champion and have taught me a lot about road racing, chassis setup, and high speed aerodynamics and I will use that knowledge to do the best I can do with what I have got.
We also new what their possible Hp numbers were from reading posts on the internet and previous knowledge deciphered.
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==>I see you have been following my posts as well as others on the various boards which is prudent necessity to staying on top(Even though you guys are still way ahead of everybody else so far due to much more time spent and quite a bit of $$$$$$ of R&D)
==> One thing you have to remember is you cannot believe everything you read on the internet!
We wanted to come to the game with what it seemed like everyone else was coming to the game with.
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==>I saw the results on the Sand Hills Open Road Challenge website for the 2002 year and saw the ZR-1 ran 180.1 MPH...... I am glad I brought everything I had to go 191.8 MPH instead of trying to be like the ZR-1==> As usual, I wanted to annhilate the ZR-1's 180.1 MPH and I did, so did you guys!
We placed the SVS Stryker TT on the Dyno just before we left and detuned it to 850rwhp w/ 950rwftlbs of torque at 7psi.
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==>How many CFM do those big turbos flow @ 7 PSI?
If we wanted to raise the boost and push 1300hp out of the Stryker it would have been very easy. But why do that? What would we have proved?
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==>You would have proved you have 1300 HP, but you did not! I do not doubt the turbo car is capable of that but you did not put it down that day. I am sure you guys will be showing the world everything you've got in North Carolina at the end of September for the Maxton mile. I will be there as well with some higher boost as well... I WILL be showing everything I've got. I will prove all I can. Maybe it will be the result I want, maybe not, but we will see!
If we would have arrived and achieved 210 or 215 everyone would have yelled "those guys got 1 million Hp and a 1 billion dollar car"
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==>I have to throw up the B.S. flag here....... Come on, whether you go 200 or 215, people will still cry you have a better car(Which you do so far...)
==> You guys deserve it the most as you have been at it longer than anybody else there is no question here as far as anybody on this board is concerned. The SVS car compared to a regular Viper is like a Navy Seal trained for combat duty compared to a regular guy!
The funny part is that exactly what we anticipated everyone would say is what you can read about on the board right now. Some people say it was expected that SVS would win because they have this or they have that.
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==>What can I say, everybody is jealous to some degree or another, it could be construed that some longtime tuners are jealous of a regular guy who happened to build a pretty fast car that could do some great things.
Let me ask a question? If you have a dancing roller skate champion and he/she doesn't win, do you think they should complain because the winner has planned better with more preparation, better roller skates and prettier tights.
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==>Jr. It is obvious you do not watch a lot of skating, as skaters do not win because of better planning or preparation or better skates.==> They win because they have superior technical and artistic ability and because they put it down the best that day. The drawback to skating is the subjective aspect of the judges' opinions and interpretations of the rules. Racing in much more one dimensional, you either win or you do not. What I like about this particular result of the nebraska standing mile competition, is that sometimes when you lose, you really have won anyway and vice versa, I am sure you get my meaning. This is what I like about racing and some situations in life in general. The reason I know about winning skating is because as you well know I was world level championship roller pairs skater (4th in the world in 1991) with my sister and 6th in the world with another partner. I remember you and your mom and dad being impressed with my pairs skating videos. I even took them to an ice skating show and gave your dad an earful of technical commentary explaining why particular skaters were good or not.
==> Prettier tights only allowed Katarina Witt to win! LOL! The women are phenomenal in skating and I am lucky enough to have married one! Wait, that's right, you and your mom and dad came to our wedding, I almost forgot! Did you marry that nice girl Mary yet? Is your daughter still in swimming competitions?
Interestingly enough I heard that someone said they ran out of gas, in a full throttle run and only achieved a minimal speed?
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==>I think you need to re-read what I said: I said I started with only about 1/3 of a tank and that on the 3rd run the massive aeromotive eliminator pump did not have enough fuel in the pickup area to be fed midway through 3rd gear. I admit it, this was the first time for me to do this and I did not have the luxury of previous experience and a pit crew to help me out! Nor did I even once fathom there would not be 93 octane for me in Nebraska.
(W.O.T.) and running out of gas is a pretty scary place to hang out.
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==>You've sure got that right!
Everyone had to drive 20 miles immediately after the 1 mile shootout event for lunch and promotion in the town of Callaway. Wonder how they made it there?
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==>I can answer this question quite easily: There was still plenty of fuel in the car to go in 6th gear and mostly coast down the hill to Callaway. I am glad I practice coasting in my truck to maximize diesel fuel mileage everyday around town. I can relinquish some of my secrets if you ask nicely!
I was told someone also broke their supercharger belt and spewed black smoke all the way down the run.
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==>Since we tested 200+ MPH speeds with our belts we were able to be confident ours would hold up to the rigors of "overcoming huge speed" as you so eloquently put it.
Our customers Stryker 800 SC did break its belt on the first run and we realized how much more difficult a supercharger is to keep belts on when overcoming huge speed.
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==>It is just a shame your customer's Stryker 800 SC belt broke as that was the first ride I ever got in a supercharged Viper. I remember being impressed as hell when you took me for a ride in that car! I guess the roads in Chicago are prohibitive to testing to 200+ MPH. I am sure you guys will get that sorted out for the next race!
A very important factor in the 1 mile shootout is consistency. Consistency wins races even if your not the fastest. We all ran 3 times:
SVS ran a 195.5, 199.2 and a 200.04 ---------- 198.24 avg.
The next best avg. was -------------------- 186.96 avg.
3rd best was --------------------------------------- 183.1 avg.
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==>You are absolutely correct about consistency. You guys had it all over the entire field of competition with your experience and years of R&D. Congratulations!
==> Mine is the 183.1 which had the 172.6 MPH low fuel 3rd run ruining my average. This is not an excuse, it is just the truth. I will not make that mistake ever again!
When we tuned at the track the only thing we adjusted was timing and fuel. We improved on our 850rwhp, 950ftlbs at 7 psi platform by making small changes but staying safe. We were able to inch out another 5 mph by conservatively adjusting the map around the elevation.
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==>Now that's the way to do it! Tune it up! More power!
The only way I could go faster was to drive better! Thank God that was all I had to worry about!
I played our in car video of our 200mph run and timed it at around 26-27 seconds
We were running a 3.54 gear. Stock trans.
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==>That is really impressive to pull from 180-200 in .5 6th gear: Do you realize you had a 1508 RWHP and 1686 RWTQ multiplication factor.
==> I hate to help my competition, But here goes: if you stayed with the 3.07, your multiplication factor would be 1931 RWHP and 2158 RWTQ? That's 28% more available HP and TQ. I hope this helps you guys out!
Oh and I forgot we spent $ 900,000.00 on wax to make the Stryker shine as well as she does.
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==>Jr., The way Tim Alcalde painted that car, she would shine just as well as she does with the cheap stuff!
Last thing; The only two people that I know from Chicago that were at the awards banquet and brought home their trophys were Ron Adee and myself. So thanks to Ron Adee and Ron Misjak Jr.(SVS) for putting Chi-town on the map!
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==>Jr., Congratulations for patting yourself on the back, One good turn deserves another and I must do the same for myself: I will say this: I did not receive a placque(They give a placque ONLY for 1st place in the standing mile highest speed category), but I am sure I left my mark for all to see regardless. I am sure everybody will see my name in 2nd place (@
http://www.sorcrace.com) as soon as they enter the results for 2003 in the next couple of weeks to the SVS turbo Car for the 1st supercharged Viper ever to go that fast. Hopefully, I am sure that, as a tuner, you would aspire to have the SVS Supercharger car rise to a similar level to mine in the near future. I have no doubt you will reach your goal with just some more good old fashioned testing like you have so done so diligently and successfully in the past! If anybody deserves to figure out the belt issue for high speed it is SVS! Good luck! I will see you at the Maxton mile at the end of September this year, Maybe we can caravan out there together! I have a map and am ready to go already! See you soon!
Sincerely, Paolo Castellano-Heffner Supercharged Viper ASP Kicker Extrordinaire!
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1996 GTS DONE being supercharged by Heffner's Performance!==> Still testing and tweaking!
191.8 MPH in the standing mile @ 3,000 Ft elevation on only 9 PSI!