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A motion has been made and seconded to remove John Hennessey's posting privledges from ViperAlley.

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Do you support the banning of John Hennesey from ViperAlley?
<input type="radio" name="option" value="1" />Ban Him
<input type="radio" name="option" value="2" />Let Him Stay
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Appears not to be working. Says zero votes.
 

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Still shows me 0 when I vote and when I view.
 

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Okay, I see what you are seeing. Its taking the votes, but that page is not displaying them for some reason. I'll look into it.
 

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Ok, devils advocate here. I say to let JH post here. He has been trying right some wrongs and if we ban him we will not see what is going on.

NoMercy said John is trying to do right by him. And I believe that he is also righting other wrongs.

John is also shipping parts COD as to not have any more problems.

I say leave him be so we all can ask him questions here and have them answered here. This will also give those with problems with him a public place to discuss for all to see what is happening.

I vote let him stay.





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The problem is special characters in my name is screwing with the results.... The votes are taking; I'll see if I can figure out how to fix this - otherwise we'll need someone else to start the poll.
 

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Well I just saw the results for the 1st time. It was 6-5. But I refreshed & it was back to 0 again.
 

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Jerome said:
Ok, devils advocate here. I say to let JH post here. He has been trying right some wrongs and if we ban him we will not see what is going on.

NoMercy said John is trying to do right by him. And I believe that he is also righting other wrongs.

John is also shipping parts COD as to not have any more problems.

I say leave him be so we all can ask him questions here and have them answered here. This will also give those with problems with him a public place to discuss for all to see what is happening.

I vote let him stay.
Devils advocate to your post /images/graemlins/smile.gif

FACT - Wilks also made a lot of promises to "make things right". This was just an attempt to get more time and stave off the hounds. JPH is making the same promises. Wilks did ship SOME stuff. JPH did too. But there are a lot of unanswered questions for Wilks. As there is with JPH. Don't kid yourselves folks - you're giving JPH the benefit of the doubt but not Wilks. use the same standard to judge each. Be unbiased and you will see I am right about this.

FACT - Not a single person has some forward with full and complete satisfaction from JPH. Not ONE. Conversely SEVERAL have come forward and said they are NOT yet done with JPH on their grievances.

FACT - HP appears to still not have been "made whole" by JPH. Bill says JPH has made some headway, but still no resolution. GaryA says he tried to get JPH to "make right" with no reply. MnbViper says he also wants restitution for his grievance with no reply from JPH.

FACT - JPH still advertises, directly and indirectly on this site. JPH profits from the exposure on this site.


Now, let's be clear... if JPH is banned, and then "makes right" with the Viper community, I am in favor of letting him come back. But UNTIL he does that, I am FULLY in favor of restricting his ability to screw anyone else. Let him repay those he owes, THEN he can come advertise and market. Until then, he deserves no access to marketing here.

Let's give Hennessey as MUCH incentive as we can to make right with our Viper brothers BEFORE we allow him to profit from us. Until he actually DOES make right, he is still undeserving of being here.
 

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Mike I have only one vote so it means only as much as every other single vote. Not much on its own.

Wilks- Still stealing.

JH- Has made some efforts to right wrongs. It is a small step, but in the right direction.

I would like to see all be compensated for past wrong doings with JH. Wilks, looks like he will get his on his own.

Not trying to start shit, just trying to converse,

Carry on, I said my :twocents: and then some.





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I have no tolerance for rip-off artists.

However, John appears to be going against the stereotype and is trying to right previous wrongs.

Give him a chance.
 

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SRT Mike said:
Devils advocate to your post /images/graemlins/smile.gif

FACT - Wilks also made a lot of promises to "make things right". This was just an attempt to get more time and stave off the hounds. JPH is making the same promises. Wilks did ship SOME stuff. JPH did too. But there are a lot of unanswered questions for Wilks. As there is with JPH. Don't kid yourselves folks - you're giving JPH the benefit of the doubt but not Wilks. use the same standard to judge each. Be unbiased and you will see I am right about this.

FACT - Not a single person has some forward with full and complete satisfaction from JPH. Not ONE. Conversely SEVERAL have come forward and said they are NOT yet done with JPH on their grievances.

FACT - HP appears to still not have been "made whole" by JPH. Bill says JPH has made some headway, but still no resolution. GaryA says he tried to get JPH to "make right" with no reply. MnbViper says he also wants restitution for his grievance with no reply from JPH.

FACT - JPH still advertises, directly and indirectly on this site. JPH profits from the exposure on this site.


Now, let's be clear... if JPH is banned, and then "makes right" with the Viper community, I am in favor of letting him come back. But UNTIL he does that, I am FULLY in favor of restricting his ability to screw anyone else. Let him repay those he owes, THEN he can come advertise and market. Until then, he deserves no access to marketing here.

Let's give Hennessey as MUCH incentive as we can to make right with our Viper brothers BEFORE we allow him to profit from us. Until he actually DOES make right, he is still undeserving of being here.
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SRT Mike said:
Devils advocate to your post /images/graemlins/smile.gif

FACT - Wilks also made a lot of promises to "make things right". This was just an attempt to get more time and stave off the hounds. JPH is making the same promises. Wilks did ship SOME stuff. JPH did too. But there are a lot of unanswered questions for Wilks. As there is with JPH. Don't kid yourselves folks - you're giving JPH the benefit of the doubt but not Wilks. use the same standard to judge each. Be unbiased and you will see I am right about this.

FACT - Not a single person has some forward with full and complete satisfaction from JPH. Not ONE. Conversely SEVERAL have come forward and said they are NOT yet done with JPH on their grievances.

FACT - HP appears to still not have been "made whole" by JPH. Bill says JPH has made some headway, but still no resolution. GaryA says he tried to get JPH to "make right" with no reply. MnbViper says he also wants restitution for his grievance with no reply from JPH.

FACT - JPH still advertises, directly and indirectly on this site. JPH profits from the exposure on this site.


Now, let's be clear... if JPH is banned, and then "makes right" with the Viper community, I am in favor of letting him come back. But UNTIL he does that, I am FULLY in favor of restricting his ability to screw anyone else. Let him repay those he owes, THEN he can come advertise and market. Until then, he deserves no access to marketing here.

Let's give Hennessey as MUCH incentive as we can to make right with our Viper brothers BEFORE we allow him to profit from us. Until he actually DOES make right, he is still undeserving of being here.
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We all have opinions on these matter. My point is this, he has screwed people out of Hundreds of thousands of dollar, his harm has far out weight the good. He has made minor tries to right the Vast wrongs he did. For me he has fallin way short of turning it around. Ban or Not Ban to me will have no effect on his trying to make things right, but I feel that being here helps him being preceived as an OK guy. I think he falls way short of that goal. I think he is lucky that someone has not popped a cap in his ass, selling parts off customers cars-Fact, charging thousands of dollars for work Not Done-Fact, sells parts and Not Sending them-Fact, etc. I voted to Ban, his presence here sends the wrong message about ViperAlley.
 

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CollinsvilleZ said:
I voted to Ban, his presence here sends the wrong message about ViperAlley.
This, unfortunately, is a terribly valid point!
 
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