they're just easier to drive. If you fuck up in a snake you're probably gonna get beaten. The Z06 is an awesome car no doubt. If I had to choose I'd probably want one Viper and 1 Z06 instead of 2 Vipers. Besides, Lingenfelter has a 7K supercharger for the LS6 that makes mad power.
Is a zo6 faster?
I have seen numerous videos, most of vipers beating a z06 on open highway in a straight line and off the line. and I've seen a z06 handle a viper easily (moundir's video) but which is really faster. I know test results favor the viper, but how about these zo6 guys claiming their cars are truly faster? Not correct is it?
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No doubt a Z06 is a formidable opponent on a road course, as long as the Viper driver isn't a pro. But on the dragstrip there is no comparison, the Viper will crush a Z06 all day long.
It comes down to the driver in most instances. All things being equal I think the viper has a slight edge. JMHO
so this data on the performance is inaccurate?
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You said "faster" meaning speed...The Viper is still 4-5mph faster in the 1/4...Now quicker, as in et, its up to driver....Drivers skill level being equal the Viper will most always be quicker too....Makaha said:I have seen numerous videos, most of vipers beating a z06 on open highway in a straight line and off the line. and I've seen a z06 handle a viper easily (moundir's video) but which is really faster. I know test results favor the viper, but how about these zo6 guys claiming their cars are truly faster? Not correct is it?
Some of these guys you see claim Vette is faster than Viper are not stock in the truest sense of the word...One only has to go to the Vette forums and see there meaning of stock to understand what I mean. example: stock means you havent opened the engine...
Stock for stock Viper is still faster and quicker, in the right hands..That says alot about the capabilities of the Z06..In the 1/4 you fuck up you lose. You race a pwrshftr in a Z06 and you cant pwrshrt you will most likely lose..Z is a hell of a car....
The 04 Z's are now trapping Viper mph according to the latest rag....To the average joe they are effectively even imho.
Well 3.9 sec 0-60 is not going to happen in that ride!
Motor Trend March, 2003:
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Road & Track August, 2003:
"At first glance, the obvious question is: Where is the Chevrolet Corvette Z06? How about classic muscle cars like the Ford Mustang? Shouldn't these two be the perfect players for this drag-strip showdown? Well, they are simply not fast enough. Based on our latest tests, the new Dodge Viper SRT-10 and Porsche 911 Turbo with the XD50 power package are the only sports cars that make the cut as top contenders in this class."
Granted, this is the SRT rather than a Gen II, however I know many think that the two are comparable, expecially if the Gen II has just basic mods (tubes, filters, & exhaust). The above comparisons are stock vs. stock.
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[image]http://www.motortrend.com/motor/roadtests/coupe/112_0306_spdtest_quartm_z.jpg[/image]
[image]http://www.motortrend.com/motor/features/scenes/112_0306_spdtest_0_100_0_z.jpg[/image]
Road & Track August, 2003:
"At first glance, the obvious question is: Where is the Chevrolet Corvette Z06? How about classic muscle cars like the Ford Mustang? Shouldn't these two be the perfect players for this drag-strip showdown? Well, they are simply not fast enough. Based on our latest tests, the new Dodge Viper SRT-10 and Porsche 911 Turbo with the XD50 power package are the only sports cars that make the cut as top contenders in this class."
Granted, this is the SRT rather than a Gen II, however I know many think that the two are comparable, expecially if the Gen II has just basic mods (tubes, filters, & exhaust). The above comparisons are stock vs. stock.
god damn the SRT-10 is a monster! must have been a black one huh Chris?
I traded my 02 z06 with only 1300 miles for a 97GTS.
The z06 is just as fast as the Viper, but not nearly as fun to drive !
The z06 is just as fast as the Viper, but not nearly as fun to drive !
viper 1 did you trap both? How do you "remember" that it's just as fast? Mechanically, I have read time and time again that a viper is indeed faster.
Stock to Stock, I most certainly give the edge to the Viper. Magazines whore themselves out and make it difficult to tell which performance data is accurate. I will say that .3-.4 tenths of a second can be lost very quickly, which is why there is so much controversy - paper racing isn't racing when the cars are close in performance. Spend some time at a drag strip and you will quickly gain appreciation for driver skill.
Throw in modifications and you introduce even more variables and required skill. I wouldn't assume you can beat a ZO6 just because you have a Viper, but you should if you know how to drive your car. That's what makes beating one so much fun! I've beat several cars at a drag strip who posted a faster ET.
Throw in modifications and you introduce even more variables and required skill. I wouldn't assume you can beat a ZO6 just because you have a Viper, but you should if you know how to drive your car. That's what makes beating one so much fun! I've beat several cars at a drag strip who posted a faster ET.
I always like racing groups criteria to determine which vehicle is faster. Good example is SCCA where a Touring 1 ZO6 can run larger tires in front than stock ( and in fact larger than a Viper is allowed ) , whereas the Viper is required to stay with a 275 front tire. The big diff if the cars are so equal is why does the Viper have to run a restrictor plate? The powers that be have determined that the Viper has an inherrant advantage, hence the Vette is given some leeway. Haven driven both at speed , on the track, the Viper is just flat quicker. Of course , preaching to the choir ,here, but the rules above really state alot.
Did not track either one.
Zero to 60 published times are within 1/10th of each other.
~ 4.2 sec for the Viper and 4.3 sec. for the z06.
My take is that the Viper is faster than the z06 Vette... if you own one... and visa - versa.
The Viper definately has a broader torque curve, which in my opinion is what makes a car FUN to drive.
I also have a 68 L68 Corvette, which is much more fun to drive than a newer Vette...again, because of the torque. (@ 460lb ft.) My wife won't drive the viper, but did drive the z06 on occasion.
Zero to 60 published times are within 1/10th of each other.
~ 4.2 sec for the Viper and 4.3 sec. for the z06.
My take is that the Viper is faster than the z06 Vette... if you own one... and visa - versa.
The Viper definately has a broader torque curve, which in my opinion is what makes a car FUN to drive.
I also have a 68 L68 Corvette, which is much more fun to drive than a newer Vette...again, because of the torque. (@ 460lb ft.) My wife won't drive the viper, but did drive the z06 on occasion.
Amen to that.. First time at the drag strip was a lesson in launching.. Almost everyone beat me out of the hole and I'd have to play a game of catch up. There's a lot to be said for learning how to get a proper launch.ZO6DUST said:Throw in modifications and you introduce even more variables and required skill. I wouldn't assume you can beat a ZO6 just because you have a Viper, but you should if you know how to drive your car. That's what makes beating one so much fun! I've beat several cars at a drag strip who posted a faster ET.
I could not agree with you more! Viper owners always feel like they come out on the short end of the stick when it comes to magazine comparisons. Interesting note on the Motor Trend numbers posted above: ALL cars were tested by one single driver - Justin Bell of Justin Bell Racing School (where they use ONLY Corvettes, including the latest Z06's). The Z06 definitely had the driver's edge in those tests! :thumb:ZO6DUST said:Magazines whore themselves out and make it difficult to tell which performance data is accurate.
So the short answer is NO the Z06 aint faster mechanically...But the real question is: stock to stock can YOU beat a Z06 in YOUR Viper or vice versa...When you break it down we all know which car is faster..But because there are so many variables when two guys/gals line up, the answer has become clouded....
I'm not sure what you're getting at, I've run more consistant than .4 even while missing third. Besides getting beat by .4 and you'll be looking for your doors in the cornfield next to the strip.ZO6DUST said:I will say that .3-.4 tenths of a second can be lost very quickly,
Just not sure what your point was, that's all.
The Viper is undoubtedly faster than the ZO6. Can a ZO6 be made to go faster than a Viper? Yeah. Just look at what Lingenfelter's done. But stock vs. stock? The Viper wins hands down all day long. The numbers don't lie.
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