[par]

Guys/girls,

tell me something. I've been running on EBC greens for 2 years now. I don't think they dust that much less. Am i having a bad batch or what? After a day of driving, even if i'm just cruising and not driving spirited my front rims are filled with black dust. Is that the way it's supposed to be? I'm just not finding them to yield that much less dust.

Insights and suggestions welcome ! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Chuck 98 RT10]

Very odd. Hard to believe they're EBC. I've run greens and reds and don't get any dust with either. Not to be insulting but are you sure they're EBC???

 

[par]

yepp. ordered them from wingking at greatbrakes.com.
I had the wheel off on friday so i can see the green logo myself... /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Thinking about ordering a new set just in case there is something wrong with this batch. It is clearly a lot of dust. Any suggestions? Could it be a bad batch?

 

[Matt]

I found that they dusted less than the stock pads, but still produced a significant amount of dust. I also had problems with them sticking and locking my front left wheel. I even had the pads swapped side to side and fluid flushed and bled twice with Motul. Still sucked.

I've now switched to Porterfield R4's and they seem to dusts lightly less than the EBC greens and stop a whole lot better. They squeek like a mofo though. Still worth it in my opinion.

 

[par]

Matt,

i remember seeing your rims being all yellow and shiny and after a day of driving they'd be even darker than mine!

You can't do anything with the porterfields to get them to squeek less? I've heard about tricks with cutting the angles of the pad etc. etc. which supposedly reduces the squeeking.

I may try a set of porterfields next. Anyone else have any experience with them? Is there a specific partnumber for the ones that fit the viper?

 

[Matt]

Supposedly, chamferring the edges will tone down the squeek. This was supposed to have been done on mine. Whether it wasn't, or just wasn't enough, I don't know. Another option is the Porterfield R4S pads. This is the street version and might be quiter than the R4 pads.

 

[getbit]

I have the EBC greens and they spotted my factory rotors. I have a set of Porterfields R4S pads I may try next after changing rotors to Eradispeed or Stoptech complete setup.

 

[E-Slab]

i have greens, and i love them, no squeel and they add to my st. patrick's day spirit in the rear (that was sarcastic)

 

[onerareviper]

I wish you guys could make up your minds!! I'm going to be installing a new set of brake pads on my 1998 GTS for street driving, and I'm at a loss. Some people love the EBC greens, others say they are junk. Any other opinions on the BEST STREET pad, and why? I'm looking for the following criteria (In order of importance):

1.) Stopping performance at 'street' heat levels.
2.) Pedal feel - Able to modulate the brake pedal and sense front brake lockup before it occurs. In other words, brakes don't feel like 'all off' or 'all on'. Stock brakes seem 'a little' too sensitive.
3.) Noise.
4.) Dust.
5.) Price.

Come'on guys... Help a brother out...

 

[Mister Bone]

Anyone use or try Hawk Performance pads?

I use them on my VR4 and they leave next to zero dust.

http://www.hawkperformance.com/padDetail.cfm



http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/results.jsp?autoMake=Dodge&autoModel=Viper+GTS&autoYear=2000&brand=Hawk&x=46&y=8

 

[E-Slab]

I wish you guys could make up your minds!! I'm going to be installing a new set of brake pads on my 1998 GTS for street driving, and I'm at a loss. Some people love the EBC greens, others say they are junk. Any other opinions on the BEST STREET pad, and why? I'm looking for the following criteria (In order of importance):

1.) Stopping performance at 'street' heat levels.
2.) Pedal feel - Able to modulate the brake pedal and sense front brake lockup before it occurs. In other words, brakes don't feel like 'all off' or 'all on'. Stock brakes seem 'a little' too sensitive.
3.) Noise.
4.) Dust.
5.) Price.

Come'on guys... Help a brother out...

i love my ebcs, i also have baer eradispeeds, so that might help, but this is why....

they stop better than the stock pad, the pedal feels a little firmer, there is NO noise, minimal dust, and they were fairly cheap. i have to admit i dont brake pad shop a lot, so i dont know what to compare it to

 

[J DAWG]

RedSnakeGTS

If you get a chance post some pics of your wheels and rotors up close. /images/graemlins/lurk.gif

 

[E-Slab]

you've got it! i am out of town, will have pics friday if it is sunny!!

 

[par]

I have the EBC greens and they spotted my factory rotors. I have a set of Porterfields R4S pads I may try next after changing rotors to Eradispeed or Stoptech complete setup.

My EBC's also spotted (burned) the front rotors (Stock). I was told it was normal with the EBC and only happened when doing hard braking from very high speed (like 150 to 0) which i have done on a few occasions.

I think i'm going to get a set of the Porterfield R4S and try them out. It isn't that much money and i'm really interested in finding out if they dust less (while braking just as fine).

As someone else mentioned i also felt that the stock pads where little too sensitive and could cause lock up if one wasn't careful. The EBC's are miles better in this regard.

 

[Tie]

I just switched to EBC Greens and I love them. They are better than stock pads. The greens are not producing anywhere close to the amount of dust I'm use to seeing and they stop much better.
I did however have the rotors turned prior to the installation and I burnished them in really good. They do produce dust but no where near the amount that stock pads did. After burnishing the pads my Viper stops better and the brakes feel much more solid.

The reports of EBC Greens not stopping the car well or taking longer to stop did not in the least rear it's ugly head for me. The only question I have is did these owners turn thier rotors and follow the procedures to burnish them.
I will admit that after I got the car back on the ground and backed it out there were no brakes, but after two full pumps they came up and wokked well. The burnishing procedure maddde them rock solid, I couldn't be more satisfied with thier performance.

After about 150 miles the dust on my WHITE wheels is not close to the black crap that I was seeing.

Could the key to these pads be fresh turned rotors and properly burnishing them?

 

[par]

you may be right. I wonder if it makes any sort of sense to go and get my rotors turned and re-install my EBC's or if i should just try the porterfield R4S?

I like the way the EBC stops, MUCH better feeling than stock (and they do dust quite a bit less than stock) but my front rims are black after a day of driving. Could improper burnish techniques and not turning the rotors increase the amount of dust? Seems far-fetched to me?

Should i try and turn the rotors just for the heck of it?

 

[Tie]

I don't know if what I did helped at all but I always turn the rotors on any car I replace the pads on out of habit. The burnishing does properly seat the pads to the new rotor surface, but probably has nothing to do with the amount of dust being produced. I can see where rutted/ridges on an unturned rotor may eat more of the pad up initially but I would think to stop after they mold/seat.

Anyway there is a vast improvement for me over stock pads.

Goodluck!