It's growing on my like a fungus. DC really screwed the pooch on this one.
Did the Gen I or Gen II have to grow on you?
I hear many people speak of how the SRT styling is growing on them. I never have heard someone say that about the Gen I or Gen II. I know the SRT performance is a real leap forward, but do you think that is what is causing the styling to grow on some?
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Mixed about the SRT10. The coupe will be better.
I like the Comp Coupe, that car didn't have to grow on me nor did the Gen I/Gen II cars. The SRT was designed for a different customer and I don't think it's a bad looking car, it just didn't grab me like the previously mentioned cars.
When I saw the initial Viper concepts back in 90? I loved it right away. The production version in '92 was slightly different, but I felt it was better in every way and was only an improvement over the concept. When the GTS came out, more of the same. For the SRT10, when I saw the initial release pictures my heart kind of sank. I didn't have the excited kid in a candy store, I NEED one of those, kind of feelings like I did with the original. Probably for the best. Saved me a bunch of cash not having to change up.
I agree, the performance is astounding, but the looks just don't follow the same improvement. I guess it's tough when it was done so right the first time. It's a high bar to try and reach again. I think they met it with the concept coupe and the produced Comp Coupe, but the SRT just seems, bla. If I'm going to spend the money for the car I feel it needs to knock me over. The SRT didn't. It's a nice car, just not nice enough to convince me to sell the current snake. If they ever release a coupe, maybe that will change.
I agree, the performance is astounding, but the looks just don't follow the same improvement. I guess it's tough when it was done so right the first time. It's a high bar to try and reach again. I think they met it with the concept coupe and the produced Comp Coupe, but the SRT just seems, bla. If I'm going to spend the money for the car I feel it needs to knock me over. The SRT didn't. It's a nice car, just not nice enough to convince me to sell the current snake. If they ever release a coupe, maybe that will change.
The Gen I and Gen II were kick ass in my eyes right off the bat. I can remember my dad taking me to the car show when I was a little kid. I clawed my way through the crowd to see the scintillating red car slowly turn behind the guardrales. I think my reaction was a bit like Ralphie's reaction (Only one thing in the world could've dragged me away from the soft glow of electric sex gleaming in the window.)of seeing the leg lamp in A Christmas Story. The big fat, wide tires seemed to practically touch each other in the rear. The buldge on the hood hinted to the power that the sidepipes flaunted. The 8 liter V-10 seemed so exotic, so powerfull, so over the top. For a preteen boy, the sweeping curves and voluptious fenders were as close to a playboy pin up as I was going to get...
...then the SRT-10 came out. Yeah, maybe it's grown on me. Maybe not. One of Pavlov's many experiments on animals might explain how the SRT is growing on some people. Pavlov would put a dog in an metal cage and connect an electric current to it. At first, the dogs would yelp, scream, and claw to get out of the cage. By turning the power off and on, the dogs would always try to get out of the cage. Pavlov then redid the experiment but this time kept the current running through the cage without break. After a period of yelping and clawing, the dogs, without exception, would lay down, be quiet, and just accept their misery. That is what happened to viper owners. We have accepted that our current model is souless. We have accepted that the car will not speak to us like the supermodel inspired curves of the Gen I/II. We have accepted that the bean counters want to make the car appeal to the masses and not the passionate.
...then the SRT-10 came out. Yeah, maybe it's grown on me. Maybe not. One of Pavlov's many experiments on animals might explain how the SRT is growing on some people. Pavlov would put a dog in an metal cage and connect an electric current to it. At first, the dogs would yelp, scream, and claw to get out of the cage. By turning the power off and on, the dogs would always try to get out of the cage. Pavlov then redid the experiment but this time kept the current running through the cage without break. After a period of yelping and clawing, the dogs, without exception, would lay down, be quiet, and just accept their misery. That is what happened to viper owners. We have accepted that our current model is souless. We have accepted that the car will not speak to us like the supermodel inspired curves of the Gen I/II. We have accepted that the bean counters want to make the car appeal to the masses and not the passionate.
Well said Makara,makara said:The Gen I and Gen II were kick ass in my eyes right off the bat. I can remember my dad taking me to the car show when I was a little kid. I clawed my way through the crowd to see the scintillating red car slowly turn behind the guardrales. I think my reaction was a bit like Ralphie's reaction (Only one thing in the world could've dragged me away from the soft glow of electric sex gleaming in the window.)of seeing the leg lamp in A Christmas Story. The big fat, wide tires seemed to practically touch each other in the rear. The buldge on the hood hinted to the power that the sidepipes flaunted. The 8 liter V-10 seemed so exotic, so powerfull, so over the top. For a preteen boy, the sweeping curves and voluptious fenders were as close to a playboy pin up as I was going to get...
...then the SRT-10 came out. Yeah, maybe it's grown on me. Maybe not. One of Pavlov's many experiments on animals might explain how the SRT is growing on some people. Pavlov would put a dog in an metal cage and connect an electric current to it. At first, the dogs would yelp, scream, and claw to get out of the cage. By turning the power off and on, the dogs would always try to get out of the cage. Pavlov then redid the experiment but this time kept the current running through the cage without break. After a period of yelping and clawing, the dogs, without exception, would lay down, be quiet, and just accept their misery. That is what happened to viper owners. We have accepted that our current model is souless. We have accepted that the car will not speak to us like the supermodel inspired curves of the Gen I/II. We have accepted that the bean counters want to make the car appeal to the masses and not the passionate.
I think you'll find that most that post here are Gen I, Gen II owners and would not have bought their cars if it was a "grow on you" sort of look.. :nod:
The Viper isn't the ugly girl with a nice personality.. She's the hottie with the attitude and ability to kick your ass if you don't treat her right. The Gen III is sort of like the hotties younger sister with a different parent, some of the attractive characteristics remain, the attitude is there, but the body just doesn't draw you in the same way as the older sister.
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The first look at a Gen I or II ignites a spontaneous primal lust in me that the Gen III seemed to have missed, making it fall from baddass into the ever so plain "nice car" category.
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No. Not at all. It was instant lust at first sight. Which is why I'm so ambivalent about buying an SRT ... I don't want a Viper replacement or even an addition to the stable if it can't do the same thing for me that that first glimpse of the Viper did.
When I saw the first production rt in 92 I jumped off the couch and said I WILL OWN ONE OF THOSE SOMEDAY! I'll never forget, it was this weekly show back in Philly that Gary Papa did. He actually testdrove one on the show.
When the coupe came out - I was equally in love - however I had wanted an RT for so long that the coupe actually delayed my Viper purchase because I was torn. Eventually I went with the ACR because of its track worthiness.
The SRT, while technically amazing, cannot compare to the RT/GTS in terms of the emotions they stir up. I can only hope the coupe is better. The Comp Coupe on the other hand is pretty badass.
When the coupe came out - I was equally in love - however I had wanted an RT for so long that the coupe actually delayed my Viper purchase because I was torn. Eventually I went with the ACR because of its track worthiness.
The SRT, while technically amazing, cannot compare to the RT/GTS in terms of the emotions they stir up. I can only hope the coupe is better. The Comp Coupe on the other hand is pretty badass.
The RT/10 still hasn't grown on me, but the GTS was an instant hit. I was shocked at how the GTS looked so much different with the roof and rear fenders.
It's similar to the GTS-R concept coupe vs the SRT-10. The cars are very similar except the roof and rear fenders, however, the GTS-R concept coupe looks so much more aggressive.
It's similar to the GTS-R concept coupe vs the SRT-10. The cars are very similar except the roof and rear fenders, however, the GTS-R concept coupe looks so much more aggressive.
I loved the looks of the Gen I & Gen II (RT/10 & GTS) right from the start.
I wanted one right from the start.
The SRT has grown on me some, but I wouldn't trade my GTS for one....
They reshaped the SRT production model slightly from the concept, but still too generic & ricey for me to call it a Viper.
A good looking car, but not what I think of as a Viper... None of the sexy curvy lines of a GTS. Just the trendy sharp body lines that are in style at the moment.
I wanted one right from the start.
The SRT has grown on me some, but I wouldn't trade my GTS for one....
They reshaped the SRT production model slightly from the concept, but still too generic & ricey for me to call it a Viper.
A good looking car, but not what I think of as a Viper... None of the sexy curvy lines of a GTS. Just the trendy sharp body lines that are in style at the moment.
if the SRT had come in a Hard Top instead of a vert, i would really like it. I saw the pics of the SRT lowered with HRE's and it look sweet. I personally like that "jet fighter" look of the front end. Just needs to be a hard top and lowered with some agressive wheels. Its a sweet car, if only it had a fixed roof.
I loved the original looks of the Viper right off. It's a beautiful and balanced design, like an artists concept. Love it or not.
The SRT-10 is like the sequel to a great movie. It's got the same characters, a similar plot, bigger budget/effects and more polish.
But lacks the originality and wild spark of not worrying about being acceptable to everyone.
The Enzo was/is a weird design, but the car's impressive capabilities, and even the looks have grown on me over time. Whereas the Porsche Carrera GT has looked drop-dead gorgeous to me since the first time that I saw it.
I like the more refined nature and additional stock performance of the SRT-10 Viper, and the fact that it's a full convertible now. But it would be hard to give up the daily "celebrity" attention that you get whenever you drive in a GenI/GenII Viper.
The SRT-10 is like the sequel to a great movie. It's got the same characters, a similar plot, bigger budget/effects and more polish.
But lacks the originality and wild spark of not worrying about being acceptable to everyone.
The Enzo was/is a weird design, but the car's impressive capabilities, and even the looks have grown on me over time. Whereas the Porsche Carrera GT has looked drop-dead gorgeous to me since the first time that I saw it.
I like the more refined nature and additional stock performance of the SRT-10 Viper, and the fact that it's a full convertible now. But it would be hard to give up the daily "celebrity" attention that you get whenever you drive in a GenI/GenII Viper.
I don't know that we have accepted the Gen III to this point. If we have then sales would not be down on the 03-04 Models. I think there is a gap that has been created by the two body styles. Don't get me wrong the Gen III is an ok car. But as you stated there just is no passion stiring or salivating going on when I look at a Gen III, but now a Gen II/I and my mouth waters I get excited.makara said:We have accepted that our current model is souless. We have accepted that the car will not speak to us like the supermodel inspired curves of the Gen I/II. We have accepted that the bean counters want to make the car appeal to the masses and not the passionate.
I need a box of Kleenex now :lolcry: :lolcry:
I never wanterd a Viper bad enough to even consider getting one until I saw SRT photos in the mags last year. I fell instantly in love and had to have one. (red,2003) No regrets.
Welcome to the boards Mike... head on over to the anything goes section and introduce yourself!
Funny but once Chris Marshall decided to get one, to me, the SRT lost any appeal it may have had. (which wasn't much to start with) 
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Chris, I know how you love these threads.
Here's what I really am wondering. If and when the coupe comes out and is very popular, do think the SRT/10 will start gaining wider acceptance?
I do.
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Here's what I really am wondering. If and when the coupe comes out and is very popular, do think the SRT/10 will start gaining wider acceptance?
I do.
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I think that most of the Viper owners who dislike the SRT-10 Viper are GTS owners. And most of those folks actually like the Comp Coupe version of the car.
Me, I prefer convertibles. But I do think that building a coupe version of the SRT-10 Viper is a no-brainer, and should be done ASAP. DCX would be plainly foolish to not produce a coupe version, and add some more power in the process.
I'm guessing that the delay is due to timing. And DCX will probably announce plans for the SRT-coupe after the new Mustang and Corvette production is started (and the Ford GT comes out in showrooms), but before the '06 Cobra and C6 Z06 Corvette is released.
I'm guessing that it will be rated at 550HP, but 600HP would make even more of an impression, and distance the Viper from the Corvette and Ford GT, as well as the Europen rivals. :zzz:
Me, I prefer convertibles. But I do think that building a coupe version of the SRT-10 Viper is a no-brainer, and should be done ASAP. DCX would be plainly foolish to not produce a coupe version, and add some more power in the process.
I'm guessing that the delay is due to timing. And DCX will probably announce plans for the SRT-coupe after the new Mustang and Corvette production is started (and the Ford GT comes out in showrooms), but before the '06 Cobra and C6 Z06 Corvette is released.
I'm guessing that it will be rated at 550HP, but 600HP would make even more of an impression, and distance the Viper from the Corvette and Ford GT, as well as the Europen rivals. :zzz:
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