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David,

Thanks for posting this. This guy has a lot of nerve. He is running this club like it is his own little private club. Not to mention that his wife Elizabeth is supposed to be the President and Gary is supposed to be the Zone Director and oversee all the chapters in the region. I am glad elections are coming up this year!

By the way I added my 2 cents over there too.
 

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Good points on both sides of the argument. I will say that as the unofficial host club, our Cen Tex club ponied up to cover the event entry fee for all members who ran the V-10 Nats last fall. Not everyone chose to run, but we had about half a dozen entries. It was my first drag competition after years of road course events. I had a great time, despite breaking out in the first round with my very first sub-12 run. The Doc has since added another class that fits those cars that can run in the 11s with almost no mods for better heads-up action.

It's not about whether national feels it should not support non-member organized events. Rather, it is whether a Viper-centered event should help the area clubs generate more activity and pull in more potential new members by offering something besides the usual dinner cruise. Our ZD was in attendance, but for whatever reason, did not run.
 

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I hope the V10 nats stays independent. it has already shown it doesnt need the VCA or any other org like it. its growing every event and its ran as good as if not better than most race events.

allowing the vca to donate, contribute, or something along those lines is cool but i would NOT give the vca any type of decision making capabilities, theyd fuck it all up for sure
 

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V10 MOJO said:
allowing the vca to donate, contribute, or something along those lines is cool but i would NOT give the vca any type of decision making capabilities,
Sponser only....just like any vendor.
 

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Hell no, keep the V10 nats seperate. Next think you know there will be a rule where you have to be a stupid VCA member or over 55 or something like that.
 

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i'll tell ya what....DAVID DID AND DOES a fantastic job with the nats......WITHOUT the help of VCA as we have seen!!!....i give many kudo's to DAVID and how he does what he does!!!!!!..... :bowdown:
 

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Hell no, keep the V10 nats seperate. Next think you know there will be a rule where you have to be a stupid VCA member or over 55 or something like that.
Are you kidding me?! Who was it that ragged on you for four years to drag those monsters?
 

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I think the issue is not so much moral support or endorsement, but cash. David obviously knows what he is doing and runs a helluva series. However I also understand that the funds can and have been tight with some of these events. Having a cash cow like the VCA throw in some money can be a good thing as long as you are not giving up control.

And let me add that all VCA regions are NOT created equal. We are planning an awesome V-10 Nationals event at one of the fastest tracks in the US: Heartland Park Topeka (one of the few tracks that has held multiple NHRA events every year). Could David do it without local VCA support? You bet your ass he could! But the local VCA stepped up and is throwing in at least $1000, arranging the track and possibly the insurance, and setting up a host hotel. What are we asking in return? We would like our own members to get a discount on entry fees, but that is about it. We don't want any control over how it is run or anything else. David is perfect for the job. We only want to help financially and with our own local contacts at the track and area hotels. Is that such a bad thing to get from the VCA? I hope not!
 

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I don't know how David does it .... he runs a business ...has a family......promotes the V-10...... and runs a fast car in it.

I can tell you, I helped David set up the Florida V-10's from setting up the track, go-carts, hotel, car show, posting maps and promoting on the web. I put my business, family, and my car on the back burner during this.

Why......because I enjoy it and the people you meet at these events.

It is alot for one person to do.....when numerous people help David set up events at different tracks it helps EVERYONE.

So thanks David for your time and everyone else that helps David from sponsors to his family and friends and other Viper owners that make it possible!

Cudaman :flag:
 

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I agree with all of you! Keep the politics of VCA away form the V-10 Nationals and don’t give them any authority!!

Sure, anybody should be allowed to be a sponsor. The Series benefits from the sponsors and of course the sponsors benefit from the Series too.

Simply put, don’t try to fix something that is not broken.

David, keep up the excellent work and as you know I am always available if you need any kind of help besides www.V10Nationals.com

Y2K3SRT is taking the right approach: help the Series so the members of the Region can benefit. That is what the members want and that is what they receive.

By the way, do you guys and girls realize that each time there is a “let’s get together and eat” event at a Region with an average of 60 people (30 cars, 30 couples) there is about $900.00 spent? Money that goes down the toilet…literally!
 

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good idea y2k, i like the idea of the local vca invovled by helping out, chipping in and thereby getting a break on entry or something for their contributions/work. itd be a good thing to do for the cities (vca regions) the v10 nats will be in, but as said repetetively, leave the vca involvement at that, v10 nats is doing great independent.

BTW, David; if there is anything i can help with for the ohio event(s) dont hesitate to ask.
 
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