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Another skip shift question...

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I posted this at the morgue, 3 responses in 4 days and they basically sucked. So I'll ask it here:

I've spent the last hour doing a search so sorry if I'm wasting everyones time but I tried to find out on my own.

I know all about the skip shift on my car and how to get around it. What I don't know is the theory behind how that makes for effective emissions control. Common sense tells me that the car runs richer and burns fuel less effeciently when it's in 4th at 15mph. What were they thinking? How does this help pass the Kalifornia emissions tests? Thanks in advance....
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Lower rpms means less fuel being burned...it's not for emissions, it's to meet the government mandated fuel economy requirements...
Snake Bitten said:
Lower rpms means less fuel being burned...it's not for emissions, it's to meet the government mandated fuel economy requirements...
It saves you another $700 on top of the $3000 gas guzzler tax.

Or would you rather pay more taxes to help out your government in their liberal deficit spending, patriot?
funny I've never had it kick in on me, Shift before 4 grand? why /images/graemlins/supergrin.gif :burn:
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Craig, the LeBaron does not have skip shift :leaving:
Snake Bitten said:
Lower rpms means less fuel being burned...it's not for emissions, it's to meet the government mandated fuel economy requirements...
OK, Good answer. But before I bought my snake new I was looking at a '99 in Sacramento and I asked the guy if it had Kali emmisions equipment. He said they all have the skip shift so essentially all Vipers are Kali legal. Was he simply full of shit? Do Vipers sold in Kali have any different emmisions equipment, or are they exempt due to limited production or sumpin?
Your Sacramento salesman was full of shit...I guess fuel mileage is relative to emissions, but the real reason for the skip shift is fuel mileage, just like on the vettes, and f-body's with six speeds...
RedSnakeGTS said:
Craig, the LeBaron does not have skip shift :leaving:
:squint:
vipernathan said:
Every Viper is CA emissions legal.
this is true for new vipers.. pre 99 model year vipers needed to be CA certified, but 99+ cars were all 50 state legal..

supposedly if you live in ca any viper model year 98 or earlier purchased from someone out of state must have at least 7500 miles on the clock, but i've heard there are ways to circumvent this..

but of course if its a 98 car that was sold in CA, then sold to a guy in FL, then sold back to another guy in CA you're good to go, since the car was originally sold in CA so it was CA legal..

Another nearly useless tidbit of viper info brought to you by Eddie N.

Eddie
Eddie - You are right about the 7500 mile rule. But every Viper from the factory has the same equipment on it.
Gerald is correct, the issue is fuel economy NOT emissions control. I would just love to see the estimated numbers for projected fuel savings. Considering the type of cars in which the skip-shift is installed....it's truly a joke!
Craig201MPH said:
RedSnakeGTS said:
Craig, the LeBaron does not have skip shift :leaving:
:squint:

BWAHHAAAAAAA


:lolcry: :lolcry: :lolcry:
The 7500 mile requirement is a strictly state law/DMV issue. It is primarily on the books to prevent people from buying a car in a non-sales tax state, or any other out of state location, and immediately transporting it into CA. For example, the requirement prevents you from buying a car in AZ with a friend's AZ address, registering it in AZ, then driving home to CA and re-registering it in CA. As far as the equipment on the car, I believe that all Vipers are CA legal as far as emissions equipment - power is a different story (see earlier debates re: the late 90's cars with the lumpy cams vs. the 00+ creampuffs).
Biggest said:
I posted this at the morgue, 3 responses in 4 days and they basically sucked. So I'll ask it here:

I've spent the last hour doing a search so sorry if I'm wasting everyones time but I tried to find out on my own.

I know all about the skip shift on my car and how to get around it. What I don't know is the theory behind how that makes for effective emissions control. Common sense tells me that the car runs richer and burns fuel less effeciently when it's in 4th at 15mph. What were they thinking? How does this help pass the Kalifornia emissions tests? Thanks in advance....
Hey, I didn't think my reply sucked /images/graemlins/flip2.gif..
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Clint Sever said:
Hey, I didn't think my reply sucked /images/graemlins/flip2.gif..
Sorry Clint, I forgot you posted there. I said the responses sucked because they didn't seem to address the emissions issue, only the mileage issue. Using less fuel in 4th gear makes sense but it seemed like it would run rich thus screwing up emmisions. I see now your post addressed both, but it still seems whacky. Don't get your panties in a wad! /images/graemlins/smile.gif
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Biggest said:
Clint Sever said:
Hey, I didn't think my reply sucked /images/graemlins/flip2.gif..
Sorry Clint, I forgot you posted there. I said the responses sucked because they didn't seem to address the emissions issue, only the mileage issue. Using less fuel in 4th gear makes sense but it seemed like it would run rich thus screwing up emmisions. I see now your post addressed both, but it still seems whacky. Don't get your panties in a wad! /images/graemlins/smile.gif
LOL - should've included a smiley.. I wasn't wadding ;), and yeah, I did kinda just take a stab at it.

Clint
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