thanx and speaking of Hemi, will those long tube fit a 4x4 Ram 1500 (2003)?Lucifer said:Those are made by Dynatech, same company that we worked with to prototype the new Dodge Hemi long tube system. The quality of their systems is just jaw dropping but I'm unsure of how well their Viper headers will work. Our Hemi headers proved good for 23rwhp and 60rwtq on a stock truck.J DAWG said:What brand header are these! Do they resemble B&B or Belanger?