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Old September 6th, 2013, 03:16 PM   #41
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They accepted his membership money and raffle money. I'd love to read the rules on this one.

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Old September 6th, 2013, 03:18 PM   #42
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Bylaws state that you have to have a VIN or a VON in order to be a member. i.e. own a Viper or have one on order. There's nothing about a mid year sale.

Raffle tickets are only available to members. (and above defines member eligibility)

Will be interesting to get the sale information.
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Old September 6th, 2013, 03:21 PM   #43
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They accepted his membership money and raffle money. I'd love to read the rules on this one.
This! Were there any restrictions printed on the tickets or any of the auction literature? I wonder how many tickets were sold under the same circumstances? Will other former owners be entitled to a refund for their ticket purchases?
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Old September 6th, 2013, 03:21 PM   #44
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I guess, if it was a legal raffle, anyone who wasn't eligible to win could get a refund. If it was an illegal raffle, everybody could get a refund.

They would have to stay up nights to think up ways to screw this up this much.
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We got an attorney. Simply put, since he sold his car before renewal, he's fucked.
On the plus side, if he retained membership in the VCA in violation of the rules, he should get back his membership dues, and the cost of the raffle ticket !

That might be a better deal than paying $30k+ in income taxes and 50k in lawyer fees for the privilege.
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Just for grins, I called a friend of mine who won a raffle car recently.
There were no questions from the VCA about the ownership of a Viper. They drove to VOI in a Viper.... It really could have been a viper titled in someone elses name.

Yes, they owned 2 Vipers at the time. BUT no questions were asked...

Why ask now???
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Old September 6th, 2013, 03:39 PM   #47
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Leaf's bro thanks you for that.
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Old September 6th, 2013, 03:39 PM   #48
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Because that car was built for VPA sales rep.
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Just for grins, I called a friend of mine who won a raffle car recently.
There were no questions from the VCA about the ownership of a Viper. They drove to VOI in a Viper.... It really could have been a viper titled in someone elses name.

Yes, they owned 2 Vipers at the time. BUT no questions were asked...

Why ask now???
This^^ why now?
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Old September 6th, 2013, 03:41 PM   #50
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Car was sold prior to 2013. Apparently they straight up asked him if he still owned one. We've had 4 vipers between is in the last 9 years
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Old September 6th, 2013, 03:43 PM   #51
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Still no call from the VCA about my raffle tickets... I called 7 times now . No one picking up
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Old September 6th, 2013, 03:43 PM   #52
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My assumption would be they are asking because they are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Imagine if it came out after the car was given to him that he wasn't a legit member. Everyone would be shitting themselves over that.

It is a fucking on their part, no doubt about it. But, it is a bit too late to be crossing your I's and dotting your T's at this point.
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Old September 6th, 2013, 03:44 PM   #53
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Apparently they straight up asked him if he still owned one. We've had 4 vipers between is in the last 9 years
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If he was allowed to buy tickets he should be allowed to win the car bottom line! Good luck and keep us posted on what happens.
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Old September 6th, 2013, 03:46 PM   #55
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Leaf what did they say in the end? Will he get car or not?
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Old September 6th, 2013, 03:47 PM   #56
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What a train wreck.

Those fuckers couldn't pour piss out of a boot with the instructions on the heel.
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I wonder how many people bought tickets that still aren't "legit" members, no problem collecting the money from them, eh?
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Old September 6th, 2013, 03:55 PM   #59
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They should not have sold him tickets then. If they can ask when you win, they should ask when you are giving them your credit card number. Too convenient. I feel bad for you and your brother, Leaf. Fubar!
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What a train wreck...
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