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Old September 9th, 2013, 05:50 PM   #1681
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Old September 9th, 2013, 05:56 PM   #1682
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Old September 9th, 2013, 05:58 PM   #1683
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I have a feeling they are going to start dropping like flies.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 06:02 PM   #1684
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After listening to that call, I can't imagine staying around. I don't see me reupping for membership next year.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 06:02 PM   #1685
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Firing Maurice is like is like firing the Dhali Lama. He is such a peaceful guy.

I stick to my earlier points that Dan Everts, the treasurer , and only other board member left, is a slimeball. Can you imagine the liabilities he must have for the stuff he has signed? He is moving to Texas, I heard.

I think it is important that we not sue them. That money can be used for a positive use to start a club. They will burn through the VCA/VPA assets quickly. They do not have the funds to initiate lawsuits, regardless of their threats. They do have insurance to defend lawsuits.
Please ban him from all Texas Viper groups now....
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Old September 9th, 2013, 06:05 PM   #1686
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He didn't "sully" his name. People in this thread did, if anyone. You? I didn't go look it up.
Maurice is THE founding father of the Viper Club. And I think he really tried to save it. But it aint worth saving and now Maurice knows that. Time to move forward.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 06:11 PM   #1687
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Maurice is playing chess, Lee is playing checkers.

One leaves is just something. The second two go makes it a problem.

I hope others follow suit and soon

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Old September 9th, 2013, 06:23 PM   #1688
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THis from the viper club forum is the most interesting thing I have read:

Being that MCVO is located in Michigan and has close ties to Chrysler, they felt the need to approach Chrysler before a decision was made as not to embarrass them by stating they were thinking about “walking away from VCA”. Chrysler’s response was “RUN”. Enough said!

If that doesn't sum up how bad the current VCA relationship with Chrysler has gotten I don't what is.

The sooner more regions drop and start a new club the better and continue spreading the word on VCA to other members.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 06:23 PM   #1689
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Been totally naive to the on goings of the VCA for the past few years until I became a regional officer this year. Unbelievable.

I could be wrong, but I really think at this point Lee knows what he is doing. I believe his attitude right now is that if he is going down, he's going to finish off the VCA. I bet he knows his actions will ultimately force the regions to separate. Just a thought....sickening.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 06:29 PM   #1690
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Been totally naive to the on goings of the VCA for the past few years until I became a regional officer this year. Unbelievable.

I could be wrong, but I really think at this point Lee knows what he is doing. I believe his attitude right now is that if he is going down, he's going to finish off the VCA. I bet he knows his actions will ultimately force the regions to separate. Just a thought....sickening.
If the books are cooked as bad as they are - it is a decent way to ensure there is nothing left to pickup and examine. Think about it.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 06:53 PM   #1691
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Perhaps the funniest thing in all of this is the demand that Maurice produce documentation proving his innocence of alleged wrongdoing. This, from an outfit that won't produce name, rank and serial number.

Folks have understandably demanded that VCA folks do not destroy relevant information which is wise and true of BOTH sides. But, if it is true that VCA or its current officers have threatened litigation, then they are already on notice that NOTHING should be destroyed. Obstruction of justice is very serious and not to be taken lightly.
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If the books are cooked as bad as they are - it is a decent way to ensure there is nothing left to pickup and examine. Think about it.
^^^^^^^^^ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!^^^^^^^^^

If all the chapters bail, they will get away scott free.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 07:05 PM   #1694
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If the books are cooked as bad as they are - it is a decent way to ensure there is nothing left to pickup and examine. Think about it.
Remember that it is all about the money. I think they win if everybody leaves the club. Then by proxy, they inherit all the VPA parts. I bet there is several million dollars worth of inventory. Nobody can then go back to check the books. There probably needs to be a class action lawsuit. I am hoping there are a few good lawyers in the club that will take this case pro-bono.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 07:07 PM   #1695
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Randall will be joining us later. Please join me in welcoming him. He also apologies for treating me poorly in the BoD meeting at VOI. I have accepted his apology and appreciate his words.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 07:11 PM   #1696
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Randall will be joining us later. Please join me in welcoming him. He also apologies for treating me poorly in the BoD meeting at VOI. I have accepted his apology and appreciate his words.
Good to hear, hopefully everyone will remain respectful and keep on topic. He should be able to shed more light on recent actions.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 07:13 PM   #1697
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Remember that it is all about the money. I think they win if everybody leaves the club. Then by proxy, they inherit all the VPA parts. I bet there is several million dollars worth of inventory. Nobody can then go back to check the books. There probably needs to be a class action lawsuit. I am hoping there are a few good lawyers in the club that will take this case pro-bono.
Why do you think they carried on with the raffle illegally. This has been planned out. They just got an extra $170k from the raffle to hold them over while everyone leaves.
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boom, roasted. NorCal is gone from the VCA
I got that email too. WTF that sucks. Maurice is a straight shooter. Talked tim him when SRT brought their launch edition GTS to Pebble Beach. There was nobody standing next to the car representing it. I was shocked. Even Hennessey was there standing next to his 1 million dollar Lotus car.. Maurice volunteered to do it..
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Why do you think they carried on with the raffle illegally. This has been planned out. They just got an extra $170k from the raffle to hold them over while everyone leaves.


They needed the money to build that extra wing on to the house..............
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Read the VPA contractor letter of 9/6/13, posted elsewhere on Alley - "There is no damage to repair with SRT other than what a few in the club recently created and are allowing to grow......"

It is my personal opinion that the reason the Gang of 4 feel this way is because Mopar is now the focus of all their schmoozing and bragging. Rockstar status! Mopar is on a pedestal, placed there by Gang-of-4. Mopar may be seduced by promises of incremental Viper Parts sales, and SEMA / PRI gladhanding junkets by insiders. But when day is done, those sales are simply diverted from local dealers to the VPA contractor.
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