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Old March 12th, 2016, 11:03 AM   #3021
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I definitely agree. I believe that the people that made the posts own the copyright to them, not the VCA.
Not defending them, but you would be wrong.

The site owners own everything on it. The people who post there are playing on someone elses playground. Thats why you have no freedom of speech and no entitlements on web forums.

Site owners can delete or modify everything you post and you cant stop them.
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Old March 12th, 2016, 11:34 AM   #3022
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I believe the "perceived value" of the old posts/archives is WAY overrated. Searching for old information sucks. Many links do not work any more and more importantly - if a picture was moved/deleted that was in one of those old posts - it disappears from the post leaving you to guess what was being referenced.

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The only value I see in the VCA is the forum DIY articles and the large amount of old posts regarding Gen 1, 2, 3, 4 and some Gen 5 issues and historical data.

Why wouldn't somebody at the VOA just join the VCA and start downloading all the important DIY articles, data, etc and store it on a hard drive until the VCA ceases to exist? Once they're gone, put it up in a special archives section of the VOA and boom, you're done.

A lot of the information is available where you don't even have to be a member, anybody can access it so it is open to post on another forum or anywhere on the internet right now.

The worse thing for the VOA to do is merge with the VCA. The VCA is so infected with bad history and legal liabilities that no amount of penicillin can make that test result negative.
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Old March 12th, 2016, 12:22 PM   #3023
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Not defending them, but you would be wrong.

The site owners own everything on it. The people who post there are playing on someone elses playground. Thats why you have no freedom of speech and no entitlements on web forums.

Site owners can delete or modify everything you post and you cant stop them.
I agree that there would be an issue and while VCA could sue over the documents, it would need to have a value that is accountable. But does VCA have a large enough wallet to open small claims cases across the country?
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Old March 12th, 2016, 12:26 PM   #3024
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I don't think that anything you say on a public forum is owned by anyone. Just my sober ass opinion tho. I'm still 4 beers away from a law degree.
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Old March 12th, 2016, 03:58 PM   #3025
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I'm still 4 beers away from a law degree.
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Old March 12th, 2016, 04:52 PM   #3026
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I But does VCA have a large enough wallet to open small claims cases across the country?
They could have another raffle.
Reminds me of a joke emailed to me last week. "Maybe the next VCA raffle should be to give away four Fiat 500's. That way every VCA member will win one!"
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Old March 14th, 2016, 04:46 PM   #3027
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They could have another raffle.
Reminds me of a joke emailed to me last week. "Maybe the next VCA raffle should be to give away four Fiat 500's. That way every VCA member will win one!"
Free blow can offer rug cleaning.
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Old April 11th, 2016, 06:44 PM   #3028
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Well.... update on the case in TX.

Full Case Information

That's gonna leave a mark.
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Old April 11th, 2016, 07:27 PM   #3029
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Well.... update on the case in TX.

Full Case Information

That's gonna leave a mark.

Cliff notes?
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Old April 11th, 2016, 07:31 PM   #3030
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Cliff notes?
8.0 likes cats, dave & BS99 are all canine.

That's about it as far as important club news goes
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Old April 11th, 2016, 07:34 PM   #3031
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8.0 likes cats, dave & BS99 are all canine.

That's about it as far as important club news goes

Dave 666 cornered the market on OEM cam sensors......

That's about it.....

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Old April 11th, 2016, 07:35 PM   #3032
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Cliff notes?
150k judgement against VCA.
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Old April 11th, 2016, 07:39 PM   #3033
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good luck collecting that from them LOL
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Old April 11th, 2016, 07:50 PM   #3034
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150k judgement against VCA.
Could be much more now since they drug it out so long. The attorney fees just kept increasing the longer they went.
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Old April 11th, 2016, 08:07 PM   #3035
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good luck collecting that from them LOL
So more 50/50 raffles on the way? Too soon?
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Old April 11th, 2016, 10:38 PM   #3036
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should be interesting to see how they spin this one.

anyone else hear the rumor that the price for one ticket, for the next VCA raffle is now over $10,000?


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Old April 18th, 2016, 02:27 AM   #3037
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Looking through the case history, the lawyers filed a motion to withdraw as counsel which was granted. Then an order was entered to retain Texas licensed counsel which never was heeded. Then a default judgment was entered.

It appears they didn't pay their lawyers or weren't responding to the lawyers, so they pulled out. Then they never responded to the court order to get a new lawyer, and never showed up in court.

I think that pretty much ends it.... the VCA is dead. Whatever money is left in the bank is going to get seized as part of the judgment. I took a quick look at the VCA site and there have only been about 10 posts on the whole site in all forums in the last week. I don't think the newly elected officers are even actually doing anything or running anything or handling anything. I think at some point soon the website will just disappear because I doubt they are paying the hosting company. And whatever members they have now, they have no money to provide any services whatsoever, even club management services... so there's no way there can even possibly be a club when this membership year is up.

It's all about when the website goes down. Wonder if the douchebags from the VCA will slink over here or to VOA's site, probably under pseudonyms.
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tried to post there just now. after all these years of my nasty posts, NOW those dopes decide to approve my posts ?

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tried to post there just now. after all these years of my nasty posts, NOW those dopes decide to approve my posts ?

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