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Old October 2nd, 2020, 05:28 PM   #1
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Hey there fellers! Finally managed to land in my dream car and have been scoping out the forum for a while and it has been insanely helpful lol so thanks y’all. I’ve got a 01 rt/10 which I am slowly bringing up to date with maintenance and mods. My latest mod has officially caused me a real problem. That’s where you guys hopefully come in. I managed to get my hands on a set of CCW classics for the car which were previously mounted on a GTS. They came with brand new tires out back which fit on that car but have no chance of fitting mine. They are 345/40/17’s and are just under two inches bigger in diameter than the 335/35/18 stockers. Can anyone lend me their expertise as to why I’ve come across this issue and what I might be able to do short of purchasing a set of $1000 tires lol. Would a set of spacers take car of my issue? Thanks in advance to any and all who can offer advice 👌
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Old October 2nd, 2020, 05:36 PM   #2
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Does your car have aftermarket brakes? If not, I don't see why they don't fit? Also, where are you located/ There might be a Viper member close by that could possibly help
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Sell or trade the "new" oversize tires to someone who wants/needs tires that tall in exchange for some proper 335-35-17s. Additionally, I think the rear ABS Gen2 brake caliper hoses don't clear most 17" inner wheel barrels.
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I’m in south Florida. Ft Lauderdale area. from what I can tel the barrel will clear but can’t be sure until I get the wheel to sit flush. If I need to do some trimming I won’t mind within reason.
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Why not just buy the right size tires? If it's just the rears, they won't cost you $1000.
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I really bought the set priced well for the wheels and tires. Just as the wheels though the deal would’ve been a wash. I figured I’d ask the experts why the wheel doesn’t clear the wheel well on my car when it did on another. I could always put tires on them But to learn the difference and maybe save a few pennies Along the way is the real reason for the inquiry.
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Are you really certain that the tires actually worked for the previous owner? Tires that tall are going to cause significant speedo errors (around 5%) as well.
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Are you really certain that the tires actually worked for the previous owner? Tires that tall are going to cause significant speedo errors (around 5%) as well.
THIS. Why would anyone go from a 30 series tire to a 40 series? Increased width (335mm-345mm) and sidewall height (30% of width to 40% of width) gives you a substantially taller tire. There is a 3" difference in diameter. 12% increase in diameter.
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As far as I know I was shown photos of the wheels on the gentleman’s gts. I wouldn’t have minded a little more meat width wise but the height is what is causing my issues. According to my calculations the tire is ~1.9” taller overall diameter which should only mean a tire less than an inch on the radius. I was looking forward to the wheel gap to be closed up a bit as a result. What have been the overall diameters for the guys running 19’s or even 20’s? Again I really appreciate all the input guys. If anything I’ll just have to keep a look out for a good deal on some decent rubber.
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On my '02 GTS, I ran 6 spoke wheels from a 2010. 19"x13" rear and 18"x11" front. Rear tires were 345-30x19" and front 295-35x18". Eibach lowering springs front and rear. When closing the hood, the bottom rear of the wheel well opening would just barely touch the back of the front tires. No clearance problems at all while driving.
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So the problem is the rear tire hitting the wheel well when you try and install it or once installed and set back on the ground, it hits....? Its not the 17 wheel but the meaty tire?
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So the problem is the rear tire hitting the wheel well when you try and install it or once installed and set back on the ground, it hits....? Its not the 17 wheel but the meaty tire?
We don't disparage the mighty OEM 17" wheel. To do so, would be blasphemous. 17s = God Mode.
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Yes I apologize for not clarifying that my clearance issues aren’t with the rotor or caliper but with the “meaty” tire contacting the front inside wheel well. I’d love to put a 17” just because I love a fat tire look on the back of the car and for the nostalgia of the look. I had a poster of a red ACR GTS growing up and that car was always my dream. However I was presented with an rt/10 and do not regret it. But I’m still trying to emulate that car I had on my wall back then. Which these CCW classics fulfill. I have a set of 1/4” spacers and those aren’t helpful I’m thinking I need a wider spacer? I wish I had the pics the guy showed me of this setup on his gts
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On my 01 GTS running the 355x30x19 GEN-V combo I have no inside wheel well issues. They come pretty darn close to the outer lip...and I have Eibach lowering springs. They will rub with the spacers that I used to have to run with the OEM wheel and big brake kit. Take the spacers out and the fitment lets the sidewall fall inside the wheel well lip on compression; otherwise with the spacer, the tire sidewall would rub the lip on compression. Up front I keep the spacer and it works fine. All I can say is to some extent, trial and error depending on specific set-ups.
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1. For all future mods or purchases consult this board first.
2. No matter how innocuous a mod seems, it can be a real PITA (all cars).
3. Trying to save a few pennies usually ends up costing a few bucks (all cars).
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Long shot, but how do you have the car jacked up? Is the suspension at full drop and the tire is rubbing? I helped a friend once and he had the jack placed on the suspension which had it compressed a bit and caused a similar issue.
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Unfortunately as a 25 year old in south Florida I’m kinda forced to pinch pennies as best as possible with a car of this caliber. I’m no stranger to finessing things to make em work which is why I was willing to chance the wheels working. I’m gonna be at my warehouse Later today hopefully I can take some of the things you guys have to me as advice and get a better idea of what the hell is going on.
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Sounds like you have a backspacing problem with the CCW wheels. Spacers can cure this, but only if you have enough stud length available.
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What are my options if that is the case? Anyone make longer studs worth a damn? And as far as spacers go any good sources?
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