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Old May 3rd, 2020, 02:56 PM   #1
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Gen 2 Center bezel removal tips?

Good things are underway with my car after sitting for 3.5 years! I'm getting ready to pull the engine and trans for rebuild, but the center bezel is hung very tightly at the 3 points indicated in light blue - upper radio corners and right between the window and rear defrost switches. I've tried ever-so-carefully lifting, rocking, twisting and prying at the 3 tight points and I'm afraid of breaking something. Does anyone have a photo of how the tabs are oriented on the backside? Any tips on how to work the attachments loose without breaking? TIA....
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Old May 3rd, 2020, 03:19 PM   #2
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I have no secret to getting them to pop...other than to just gingerly keep prying. If they have NEVER been removed, I'm sure they took a good set and will frustrate you to no end! Nonetheless, the two top ones are oriented horizontally. Not sure about the center one. I'd focus on the top two by trying to get your fingers into the gap on the top corners and wiggle, rock, bend, twist. IF it brakes, it breaks....but it will probably pop and pinch your fingers.
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Old May 3rd, 2020, 03:50 PM   #3
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Old May 3rd, 2020, 04:13 PM   #4
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The first time I went to remove the bezel I thought it was gonna break. I think they just pull straight out and the metal clips compress. But that plastic seems a bit stronger than the typical crap used on the door bezels and other interior pieces. Sorry I didn't bother to wash it for the pics. Been sitting for a while.


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I just removed mine a couple weeks ago, thought I was going to break the damn thing, then got pissed and gave it some force while rocking it a bit, popped out just fine.
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Old May 3rd, 2020, 04:45 PM   #6
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Thanks VERY much Chuck! It took a very light shot of spray lube right over the 2 top clips and a little ginger wiggling on each one to get them loose!
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Those things look nothing like a broken camshaft.........


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Those things look nothing like a broken camshaft.........


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Not too soon - but it's stuck, not broken. I spent a few hours yesterday getting it prepped to haul off to the shop where they will pull the engine and trans to start the process. I'll open up the trans and freshen it while the motor is underway. I'm praying I don't need new pistons - just a hone and re-ring.
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I used a small plastic pry bar to remove mine.
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Not too soon - but it's stuck, not broken. I spent a few hours yesterday getting it prepped to haul off to the shop where they will pull the engine and trans to start the process. I'll open up the trans and freshen it while the motor is underway. I'm praying I don't need new pistons - just a hone and re-ring.
Your cam is stuck? What's going on there? When I pulled my cam I noticed a number of the lobes were knicked up pretty good. I never figured out why. The car was bone stock at the time with 30k miles.

I have a bigger cam in now, and a really bothersome ticking noise coming from the valve train. I haven't driven the car much because I'm paranoid I'm destroying this cam too, so I'm trying to get it sorted. I checked and re-checked the rocker preload, tried heavier oil, nothing conclusive so far. But I am suspicious whatever mechanism was responsible for damaging the first cam is still at play here.
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Old May 4th, 2020, 08:57 PM   #12
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I had all the external engine covers off during my complete reseal, undercarriage detail, suspension and brake rebuild, body panel and glass realignment foray several years ago. When re-gasketing my timing cover, I checked my timing chain for stretch, bolted everything back up and finished the reassembly. Idling in the driveway while flushing the block, it just stopped running with a metallic chirp in the back and never would refire. It was getting spark and fuel, but no run. Turns out the cam sprocket bolt had stretched and loosened. (I never touched it during the reseal - nothing led me there) The sprocket wobbled and finally sheared the timing pin. The cam was stuck and I was so PISSED OFF after all those hours of love I heaped on it that I left it sitting for 3 years. Thinking back, my car had gotten progressively harder to start for a few months, but I stuck a new battery in it and it was better, but not right. It was probably loosening up and throwing the engine out of time for a while before it stopped.
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Not too soon - but it's stuck, not broken. I spent a few hours yesterday getting it prepped to haul off to the shop where they will pull the engine and trans to start the process. I'll open up the trans and freshen it while the motor is underway. I'm praying I don't need new pistons - just a hone and re-ring.
Let me know if you need a piston or something. Also, great time to do a Roe 710 cam and port/polish your heads
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Oh Dean...haven't we all been there!!! I walked away for months many times questioning WHY IN THE HELL DIDN"T I JUST LEAVE IT STOCK!! But its in my DNA to tinker and presumably do more harm than good in the final analysis. I guess that's called a hobby. So HANG IN THERE!!!
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Much appreciated Mike. I'll let you know.

While I'm in the middle of interior-related how-to's, here's a reference illustration about safely removing the interior door latch bezel without ruining it:
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