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Old December 21st, 2018, 08:38 PM   #1
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Garage moisture and surface rust

My garage sometimes has condensation and/or moisture inside and I'm starting to see some surface rust on the cars on rotors, bare metal parts underneath, etc. I live in SE PA where the winters get pretty cold and we've had a ton of rain in the couple months. It's a 3 car attached garage with 2 of the walls adjoining the house and then other side wall and doors facing the outside. All 4 sides are insulated in the walls and the doors fit pretty well (with only a few spots where light may shine through the rubber molding.

Anyone have ideas on a heater, vent fan, dehumidifier, etc that could help cut down the humidity? We do use the garage as our main entrance as we pull in the driveway and come/go through one of the doors.

If no good option to keep the humidity out, what are thoughts on the blow up car capsule? I have 3 cars in here (Viper, Cobra, Vette), 1 is in the end garage, the other 2 are stacked with a 4 post lift. Not sure how well the car capsule would work in the bay with the lift?

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Old December 21st, 2018, 10:39 PM   #2
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I also live in SE PA and this years rain has sucked. If you have a lift I would remove the corrosion and treat it, then apply light film of ACF50 or Fluid film. I would not worry about the rotors as that's just gonna happen.
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A late friend of mine had a house in central western Saskatchewan, where it gets pretty cold and wet. He had collector cars in the bubbles with fans to circulate the air and he said that after years, there was no sign of corrosion on any of them.
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Old December 22nd, 2018, 09:32 PM   #4
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What has worked very effectively for me is ventilation in the garage. I installed a couple of fans in each external wall to draw air out of the space as well as maintain a constant stream of air which eliminates condensation.
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My bathroom is the size of a small broom closet. Add to that I live in Tampa - the land of oppressive humidity. Mold would grow so fast in my bathroom it would trigger the motion detectors on my hidden cameras. I hate mold and so do chicks so I installed a reciprocating fan with a timer. Now every time I use the shower I let the fan run for a couple hours. Result: no more mold.

I mention this because if a fan stopped my mold problem it should stop your rust problem.
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I mention this because if a fan stopped my mold problem it should stop your rust problem.

So he can keep his Viper is your bathroom?
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My bathroom is the size of a small broom closet. Add to that I live in Tampa - the land of oppressive humidity. Mold would grow so fast in my bathroom it would trigger the motion detectors on my hidden cameras.
You have hidden cameras in your bathroom?
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Contact CARBAG in Michigan. They make a CarJacket I have used on several cars for over 15 years. Clean the car, put it in the bag, put in the desiccant and the car comes out with zero rust, dust, bugs, vermin or oxidation. Must recharge the desiccant every six months and is for indoor storage only. Works on cars, motorcycles and anything else you can think of.
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Old December 27th, 2018, 01:02 PM   #9
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Moisture plus metal equals rust. A lot of bad rust. Rust that can make a car from good to junk in laterally weeks.
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Old July 5th, 2020, 04:31 PM   #11
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My garage has a 16' ceiling, a lot of insulation, several high windows and a loft on half of it, but no climate control. I'm on a hill with fairly good breezes in the evenings and usually keep select windows cracked to varying levels to let wind and thermal convection keep the air turning over. I just let the humidity do what it does, and keep the temp swings mild. I have no problems at all with corrosion or tire storage conditions. I do keep the tires out of direct sunlight as much as possible.
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Oh boy did I have a lesson on this BS earlier this year.

Short version... I move my car from NY to FL. When up in NY, it was either stored in a climate controlled garage, or a very well ventilated garage, covered.

When I moved the car to FL, the garage was accidentally left open one morning when the GF left for work. On the off season, with cold nights, the engine block gets pretty cool. Temps and humidity climb in the AM... INSTANT dripping engine block if the garage is left open with all of that humid air to circulate.

Needless to say, this happened a couple times, and I had more corrosion on my polished manifold in two weeks than I had in NY in ten fucking years. Nearly brought me to tears, and took me literally DAYS to wipe down the entire drivetrain with WD40, get any light corrosion off, build up a little protection, and re-polish everything.

Bought a fan and a dehumidifier. Keep the DH @ 50%, and the fan on low. Zero problems since.

And bitched at the GF. That helped too. And I felt better.
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...FL, ...Temps and humidity...
I did a couple rounds in Florida myself. My then girlfriend/now wife had herself a shitty VW Cabriolet MK2 and the humidity completely sagged her headliner and would soak the carpets so much, we had mosquitos eating our legs alive in the car.

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Fuck Florida, I want move to Montana, Wyoming, Those regions. Id move to Alaska if the cost of living wasnt so expensive


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I really don't like snow. Alaska would mean instant and consistent daily dejection.

Utah, Montana, and Wyoming are out for me. Unfortunately, Colorado too. Just hate snow.. it's, legitimately, only 3-4 good dry-road months. Even when it's not snowing, the roads are perpetually wet and nasty. Lots of land and wide open space tho.

Virginia was a nice split. Epic roads. Had winter but didn't bleed into spring like the aforementioned states. Never had a moisture problem there personally, I closed my garages at night tho. Lots of deer: Where a mouth guard if riding your motorcycle at night...

Do you like perpetual summer and bitches that throw thier panties at the Viper at every gas station? America, errrrr... Texas, is where it's at.
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I really don't like snow. Alaska would mean instant and consistent daily dejection.

Utah, Montana, and Wyoming are out for me. Unfortunately, Colorado too. Just hate snow.. it's, legitimately, only 3-4 good dry-road months. Even when it's not snowing, the roads are perpetually wet and nasty. Lots of land and wide open space tho.

Virginia was a nice split. Epic roads. Had winter but didn't bleed into spring like the aforementioned states. Never had a moisture problem there personally, I closed my garages at night tho. Lots of deer: Where a mouth guard if riding your motorcycle at night...

Do you like perpetual summer and bitches that throw thier panties at the Viper at every gas station? America, errrrr... Texas, is where it's at.

I strongly dislike summer. Im a fall winter person


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My garage sometimes has condensation and/or moisture inside and I'm starting to see some surface rust on the cars on rotors, bare metal parts underneath, etc. I live in SE PA where the winters get pretty cold and we've had a ton of rain in the couple months. It's a 3 car attached garage with 2 of the walls adjoining the house and then other side wall and doors facing the outside. All 4 sides are insulated in the walls and the doors fit pretty well (with only a few spots where light may shine through the rubber molding.

Anyone have ideas on a heater, vent fan, dehumidifier, etc that could help cut down the humidity? We do use the garage as our main entrance as we pull in the driveway and come/go through one of the doors.

If no good option to keep the humidity out, what are thoughts on the blow up car capsule? I have 3 cars in here (Viper, Cobra, Vette), 1 is in the end garage, the other 2 are stacked with a 4 post lift. Not sure how well the car capsule would work in the bay with the lift?

Thanks in advance,
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Unfortunately, Colorado too. Just hate snow.. it's, legitimately, only 3-4 good dry-road months. Even when it's not snowing, the roads are perpetually wet and nasty. Lots of land and wide open space tho.
Where in Colorado did you live? In Colorado Springs (and pretty much anywhere along I25) I've only experienced great weather. Mostly sunny days, and the humidity is so low that any snow that falls is usually gone within a day or two, leaving roads dry and fairly clean. I was going on motorcycle trips in January.
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