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Old December 21st, 2015, 06:21 PM   #41
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Let's put this in terms Dave can understand:

Using 20" wheels and tires to go fast is like using a 180 thermostat to keep your Viper cool.
Lol...
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Pilot super sport 345/30/20, if those don't work the Pilot sport cup 2's 345/30/20. You CAN have your cake and eat it too......
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Old December 21st, 2015, 07:28 PM   #43
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No, which is once again proving my point.

20" low profile tires are for looks, not for performance. Availability is based on sales and demand, which is low because 20" wheels are for stancers and cholos.
Your point then, having nothing to do with the OP searching for 20" tires lmao.
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Old December 21st, 2015, 07:33 PM   #44
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Let's put this in terms Dave can understand:

Using 20" wheels and tires to go fast is like using a 180 thermostat to keep your Viper cool.
lol, says the guy who's forte in life is designing cup holders for race cars
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No, which is once again proving my point.

20" low profile tires are for looks, not for performance. Availability is based on sales and demand, which is low because 20" wheels are for stancers and cholos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD2Uzq45R2k

They suck for performance. I drove to the track, put 5 gallons of 100 octane in, ran 5.80's and drove home. All on a 19/20 Nitto invo 345 setup. That was forever go.
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Going with these next. Mickey Thompson ET Street S/S P335/25R20. Can order from Summit, jegs, etc for $442.

I have pilot super sports 345/35/20 now and they suck for traction.

My FGT has MT ET Street Radial 305/35/20 and hooks great with 850whp but it is mid engine too! I think this tire has been replaced by the above ET Street S/S.

It is a WARM WEATHER DRY TIRE ONLY!!!
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Going with these next. Mickey Thompson ET Street S/S P335/25R20. Can order from Summit, jegs, etc for $442.

I have pilot super sports 345/35/20 now and they suck for traction.

My FGT has MT ET Street Radial 305/35/20 and hooks great with 850whp but it is mid engine too! I think this tire has been replaced by the above ET Street S/S.

It is a WARM WEATHER DRY TIRE ONLY!!!
BAM!! Holy Shiite. First time I have ever seen a decent DR that fits our car in a 20" size. Excellent find. Do want.
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Old December 21st, 2015, 09:26 PM   #48
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BAM!! Holy Shiite. First time I have ever seen a decent DR that fits our car in a 20" size. Excellent find. Do want.
+1. May have to raise the ride height on the coilovers to prevent rubbing....
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Old December 22nd, 2015, 04:24 AM   #50
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Pilot super sport 345/30/20, if those don't work the Pilot sport cup 2's 345/30/20. You CAN have your cake and eat it too......
I like these options too, prefer them over the Invos. Although both Michelin and Nitto are 345s The Michelins are wider and taller sidewall.
A good compromise are the Corsas in a 19".
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+1. May have to raise the ride height on the coilovers to prevent rubbing....
Overall diameter is <27". Same as the Invo. I think Its the >28" tires that rub. Should work great.

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I like these options too, prefer them over the Invos. Although both Michelin and Nitto are 345s The Michelins are wider and taller sidewall.
A good compromise are the Corsas in a 19".
19" Corsa doesnt fit 20" wheels lol. This is about 20" options.
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lol, says the guy who's forte in life is designing cup holders for race cars
We can race our cars next spring if you want to see who's works better I'll even leave my cupholder in which converts it to a mild street car. Hopefully Dan can figure out your car for you by then since you seem to have a hard time doing it yourself
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Cool, thread summary:

Dave knows more about fan speed relays than about traction.
People still think 20s on a Viper is a little Ghetto.
The pilot sports and super duper sports suck, if you get a street tire get the Invo.
There are drag radials in the correct size out there.

Thanks a lot for helping me decide. I'll likely go with the drag radial as I don't plan on driving in the rain much and if it's not a warm day out all I have to do is spin them for 5 seconds.
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19" Corsa doesnt fit 20" wheels lol. This is about 20" options.
That's why it'd be a compromise. Traction has been part of the discussion and we've had 18", 17", 16" options offered up as well...for traction.
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That's why it'd be a compromise. Traction has been part of the discussion and we've had 18", 17", 16" options offered up as well...for traction.
Bart, you saw the 18" ACR on my car. The rear looked like a spare was installed due to the larger rear bumper and spoiler. Even on a stock body 19&20 look amazing. At that point I would compromise for traction with a 18 & 19" set on a FI high HP car for sure. In my case I think I have to go to a 20" and that won't even pop the way it would on a stock car, it'll just look good.

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Bart, you saw the 18" ACR on my car. The rear looked like a spare was installed due to the larger rear bumper and spoiler. Even on a stock body 19&20 look amazing. At that point I would compromise for traction with a 18 & 19" set on a FI high HP car for sure. In my case I think I have to go to a 20" and that won't even pop the way it would on a stock car, it'll just look good.
IMO (performance aside) the wheel size and the way they look on the car is all about the ride height.

20" looks donked out unless you get it slammed in the rear. 18" is more of a drag look whereas 19" is a good balance with a little bit of meat but still fills the wheel well nicely.
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Sure ride height is a big factor as is aspect ratio of the tire.

The difference Im referring to is a stock body, vs a body kit or widebody. Changes everything.
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Lets see.......spend $3k+ to switch from 20s to 19s, or spend ~$900 for the 20" DR.


[ ] Hard choice
[X] Not Hard choice
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