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Old December 16th, 2015, 01:46 PM   #1
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Siemens Deka 60 pound injectors?

are the FI114961 injectors from Siemens the correct ones to use in the vipers? are they bolt in replacements for the roe guys? Minus tuning of course?

then when it comes to tuning does anyone have the data sheet for these injectors to get the injectors dialed in? I have a data sheet but its for 39.15psid, and i know our cars run 58psid roughly so is this basic math or something else that I should prob just hand over to a professional...?
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Old December 16th, 2015, 06:36 PM   #2
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Yes those will fit. I would hand it over to a professional to at least get a base tune at first.
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Old December 17th, 2015, 08:01 AM   #3
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Roger that. I'll just have a professional do it. But needed to make sure they were correct at first
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60# injectors are limited to about 600 hp i think.
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Old December 17th, 2015, 09:59 AM   #5
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60# injectors are limited to about 600 hp i think.
I'm around 670rwhp..with no issues. I believe Ellow is running the same injectors on his beast with more HP.
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Correct. I'm just at 700 with at least 8 more ms of injector pulse width to work with.... so around 75% duty cycle. Perfect. Remember, you don't want such a large injector that you piss a big squirt of fuel for 20% of the time the intake valve is open. Its better to spray a metered amount across the entire intake cycle using available pulse width. Its called "right sizing and timing" your injectors against intake valve timing. Everything has to work together. Intake valve opening, injector size, fuel pressure, fuel temp, IAT, engine temp, blah blah blah.....
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I've got the 60s in mine as well. Torrie says he has gotten 1000hp out of them.
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Spoke to Todd @ A&C about this last night. 60ish is the way to go to support over 700 rwhp.

Jack, what pumps and lines are you running again?
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Jack, what pumps and lines are you running again?
Twin Walbro 450s in an RSI hanger, -10 to external FPR (-6 return) and filter, -10 to a Y-connector, then -8 into the rails.
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yeah my 52's were over 650whp with my roe, i figure the 60's would support 750whp, but i hear 800's with them.. Maybe you are thinking e85?
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since it's my thread I guess this is ok to bring back from the dead.

well now the ID injectors won't fit our 2nd gen intakes. I am back looking at these dekas.

I am going to have around 850whp. are these alright for that power level or will I need 80's this is on pump 93 octane and water meth. no e85 here
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try reaching out to scott? or Siemens?
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since it's my thread I guess this is ok to bring back from the dead.

well now the ID injectors won't fit our 2nd gen intakes. I am back looking at these dekas.

I am going to have around 850whp. are these alright for that power level or will I need 80's this is on pump 93 octane and water meth. no e85 here
https://fuelinjectorclinic.com/flow-calculator

According to the "math"...you should be fine.
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