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Old January 31st, 2017, 11:04 PM   #261
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Outstanding, Zach! Congratulations!
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That's awesome. Congrats!
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Nice work Zach. I'm sure my the time spring rolls around, you'll be all tuned up and ready to enjoy the fruits of your long labor on this build. Don't forget to keep an eye on those hood surface temps after some longer boost pulls.
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Old February 1st, 2017, 06:35 PM   #264
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Wow! Very impressive man!
I have fantasies about building my own turbo Viper all the time. Very Inspiring thread
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Brilliant work Zach. Congratulations.
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Old February 2nd, 2017, 10:44 AM   #266
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This was started on the MS3 Pro. I will show some details of the harness we built for this before it's all said and done.
Please do! I'm about to pull the trigger on an ms3pro myself.
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Very Nice build and Fab work
Congrats Zach!!
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Old March 2nd, 2017, 10:28 AM   #268
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Been another month since I've posted. I've been doing small cleanup and other items to get the car "finished".

First off, I had used just regular wire looming in the engine bay. I am trying to be a little paranoid with underhood heat, as I think that is the biggest risk of this build.

Before with regular looming but not really heat protected:



After with fire rated cover:





Still need to finish a few other areas with this stuff but it should help make it a lot less prone to burning up the wiring.

Next, I needed to finish the interior work I started.

I pulled out the dash, stereo surround, and door pull covers to strip off the rubber coating and paint in a satin black.

Before I could put it all back together, I needed to put back the rubber shifter boot. I had drilled out the rivets when putting in the TR6060 and the IPSCO short shifter. I decided to use rivnuts so I could easily pull it off again in the future.

Rivnuts installed:



Next I changed out the leather shift boot and e-brake boot for some brand new leather ones with red stitching from Redline. They turned out good. The e-brake boot is way shorter than the stocker. I don't know why they did that but it still works and looks okay.

Next item was updating the head unit. I still had the original Alpine, and it was getting frustrating not having a way to play digitial music or having bluetooth.

I went with a basic head unit from JVC. Wasn't looking for anything fancy, but it has bluetooth, aux hookup, USB hookup, etc.

Next, I moved my AEM boost gauge/wideband to the steering column. I had it on pillar before and it was way too close to my face, and just looked kind of ricer so I decided to get rid of it and go to the steering gauge pod.

I can't decide which shifter handle to use. I have always had the ball MGW shifter with the red installed, and it's great due to it's short length. But then, I bought a stock Gen 4 shifter handle cus I thought it would look classy and different, yet still viper OEM. It looks good, but after running through the gears dry, I just don't know if I can deal with how much throw there is.













For the dash and center console paint, I used SEM Color Coat with SEM Sand Free primer.

The dash and radio surround are just Landau Black with no clearcoat. The gray stereo surround is a gunmetal color with a high gloss SEM clearcoat. I don't know if I really like how the gray color turned out, so I may pull it back out at some point and make it Piano Black.

Next, I wanted to pull out the driver seat, so I could install some pedal covers I had bought, do some heavy vacuuming/cleaning, and tuck the wideband wiring underneath the dash.

Looks like the last owner didn't do any vacuuming LOL.



Got it all cleaned up and started installing the pedal covers. My rubber brake pad was torn so I needed to replace them so I decided to just spring for these.

Stock pedals.



Drilling and adding the aluminum covers (after removing the rubber).









Lastly,

Started installing the 2" seat lowering kit. Still need to finish that this weekend so I can put the seat back in!

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Who makes the pedal covers?
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Love seeing your updates. Nice work.
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Old March 3rd, 2017, 08:36 AM   #271
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Started installing the 2" seat lowering kit. Still need to finish that this weekend so I can put the seat back in!

Those tabs look very flimsy. I hope they are just for fit-up purposes and you intend to finalize with some more substantial structure. If not, that would be the only thing you've done I could seriously quibble with.
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Old March 3rd, 2017, 12:08 PM   #272
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Those tabs look very flimsy. I hope they are just for fit-up purposes and you intend to finalize with some more substantial structure. If not, that would be the only thing you've done I could seriously quibble with.
It's the 2" lowering brackets that Jon B sells. I think it looks like that because they are sunk into the carpet in my photo (already tightened down some).

I have certainly not done FEA on them so hard to say for sure
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How close is the SEM Landau Black to the OEM color?
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Old March 6th, 2017, 08:59 AM   #274
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How close is the SEM Landau Black to the OEM color?
I can't say compare to a brand new OEM dash, but it's definitely darker than the 20 year old grayish rubbery crap that my 1997 had. You can see the difference compared to the lower panels. I think it turned out amazing. It looks very clean and updated in person without looking "aftermarket".
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Finished up a lot of random little stuff this weekend.

I got the 2" seat lowering kit installed. What a giant PITA that is to get the bolts lined up and installed. I hope to never do that again. I will say it was COMPLETELY worth it as I am pretty tall and my left knee was jammed into the dash before and now it has plenty of room.

With the interior done, the last thing to finish up was the wiring on the MS3 Pro.

I forgot to take pics and show how the harness works from the stock ECU to the MS3. Basically I just went to the junkyard, found connectors and an ECU and stole the pinouts from like a Dodge pickup that was identical to the connectors for the Viper. We then just created a jumper harness that plugs into the stock ECU, and then each wire from the MS3 that controls each feature is wired to the jumper board so it can control it.

We then needed to create a coil driver board. My buddy designed this one. I then needed to create a heat sink for it.



Also, I needed to create a housing for it and my EGT sensor board so I designed a combined 3d printed box to hold them and look nice next to the MS3-Pro.



Used some "melt-in" threaded inserts.



All loomed up with wire covers to look as OEM as possible. I could make it cleaner if I shortened things up a little but it's okay for now.







With that done, I pulled it outside on it's own power for the first time! Also gave it a little bath. It was covered in 18 months of dust in the garage.














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Old March 6th, 2017, 12:19 PM   #276
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Finished up a lot of random little stuff this weekend.

With the interior done, the last thing to finish up was the wiring on the MS3 Pro.

I forgot to take pics and show how the harness works from the stock ECU to the MS3. Basically I just went to the junkyard, found connectors and an ECU and stole the pinouts from like a Dodge pickup that was identical to the connectors for the Viper. We then just created a jumper harness that plugs into the stock ECU, and then each wire from the MS3 that controls each feature is wired to the jumper board so it can control it.

All loomed up with wire covers to look as OEM as possible. I could make it cleaner if I shortened things up a little but it's okay for now.

Chrysler powertrain engineers developed the JTEC (Jeep/Truck Engine Controller) about the same time as the Gen 2 Viper was in development. You did exactly the right thing getting donor plugs for your new harness.
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I got out the other night for some tuning finally.

These were just the first couple test hits.

I'm super happy with the turbo and how fast it comes on. The video makes the turbo seem laggy because I am crawling up to about 3k RPM on the throttle, then only the last blip where it gets violent is where I am actually pushing down the pedal and getting into boost! This car is going to be really fun on the street!

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Glad it's coming to fruition! Looks amazing. Nice build!
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Sounds wicked! Are you going to run some ET times with it? I hope you do as i think that thing will kick ass.
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Sounds wicked! Are you going to run some ET times with it? I hope you do as i think that thing will kick ass.
For sure. I don't have a cage yet so I may get kicked out but it'll see the track even if it's one glory pass!
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