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Old September 28th, 2014, 01:36 PM   #1
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Clutch pedal rod clip wtf?

I bought a couple of those plastic clips that seem to break and leave people stranded when the clutch master cylinder rod comes off the pedal linkage. So I wedged my ass up in the wheelwell today to take a looksie at what may be involved there, and best I can see with a mirror and flashlight, the rod on my '01 it attached to the pedal linkage with a metal clip. It looks factory. Are there different versions of the rod to pedal design? Am I looking at the wrong thing?

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Old September 28th, 2014, 02:08 PM   #2
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Clutch pedal rod clip wtf?

We talking about #2 in diagram? Mine is metal too.

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Old September 28th, 2014, 02:24 PM   #3
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I bought a couple of those plastic clips that seem to break and leave people stranded when the clutch master cylinder rod comes off the pedal linkage. So I wedged my ass up in the wheelwell today to take a looksie at what may be involved there, and best I can see with a mirror and flashlight, the rod on my '01 it attached to the pedal linkage with a metal clip. It looks factory. Are there different versions of the rod to pedal design? Am I looking at the wrong thing?

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It is a metal clip and there are two plastic bushings on the rod as well. You may not be able to find the part number for the clip- it's just not listed. You can find them on the older Jeeps.

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Old September 28th, 2014, 05:20 PM   #4
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I, too, got myself to look up inside there a while back and wasn't too sure what was going on... I figured I was just overlooking the piece or something. Does anyone have a picture of the actual clip and/or know where I can order a few? I'd like to keep some handy as well.
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Old September 28th, 2014, 07:29 PM   #5
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I have an extra factory bushing/clip that is like a birdcage made out of plastic. It's what the dealership and VPA had for my car. Junk. I drilled the stud and put in a cotter key an washer. Read too many threads where the plastic birdcage would break and whoops---no clutch. Not good if the car's in gear.
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Old September 28th, 2014, 08:04 PM   #6
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Is this the infamous birdcage clip?



If so, is the clip the same for Gen I and Gen II cars? Where can I get them at? The more I read the more it seems people are getting the wrong clips and they aren't fitting right.
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Old September 28th, 2014, 08:23 PM   #7
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My 98' GTS isn't using the "bird cage" bushing either. Those clips can be a real PITA though and can and will slice fingers open if you aren't careful when removing/installing them.

https://www.viperalley.com/forum/vipe...bird-cage.html
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Old September 28th, 2014, 08:34 PM   #8
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I like your solution! Looks to be high quality. How's it holding up? So basically we'd just have to buy another clutch pedal link setup with all hardware and it'll slip right together?
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Thanks, its holding up well. I haven't researched it any further but I would assume all you would have to do to convert over from the bird cage set up is to source the clips, the bushings, and the small pivot shaft that all that mess goes on. Some mods to the clutch pedal may be involved as well but I can't imagine it would be complicated.
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In the beginning of this season that shitty plastic birdcage snapped on me. I ended up cutting the plastic birdcage and using it as a bushing and washer. At the end I installed one of the metal clips. I just didn't feel comfortable relying soley on that plastic piece to hold. Works perfect so far, as I expected it would.
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I'll have to get a picture of what's on my car. They look like metal e-clips. And they look factory.
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Old September 29th, 2014, 06:37 AM   #12
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We talking about #2 in diagram? Mine is metal too.
Can't tell what's in that parts book pic, but looking at that photograph of the plastic bird cage with the screwdriver under it, mine has a metal clip over the end of that exposed shaft. Meaning I'm finding it difficult to figure out where the plastic thing comes in to play on my car.
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It's such a simple concept...yet some engineer royally screwed it up with this "birdcage" contraption. Not all engineers handle real-world applications well, this being one of those instances.
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It's such a simple concept...yet some engineer royally screwed it up with this "birdcage" contraption. Not all engineers handle real-world applications well, this being one of those instances.
right on, some dumb ass book worm did that and has never had his hands on a car, unreal how they let people do this,and let it pass through to the parts bin, some real shit out there right now like this in all car groups
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Thats the "bad" birdcage clip? I thought having a metal one was the solution? For the life of me I can't find the birdcage anywhere on my car.. I have the clip posted above in every location I can find, and like Dave said, they all look to be factory.
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right on, some dumb ass book worm did that and has never had his hands on a car, unreal how they let people do this,and let it pass through to the parts bin, some real shit out there right now like this in all car groups
Guys, engineers design shit like that on purpose. It keeps industries and businesses in business.
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Guys, engineers design shit like that on purpose. It keeps industries and businesses in business.

Its been my experience that mechanical engineers often over complicate things. More often than not, its not on purpose. Its because they don't know any better. Just because you can make something, doesn't mean you should. The lame ass bird cage bushing is a classic example of an engineer taking something as simple as a pivot point, and making it overly complicated as well as weak. The same goal could be accomplished with a flanged bushing, a washer, and a cotter pin. BOOM, done. Simpler, stronger, and cheaper too. Some dipshit spent a lot of time designing that turd, then even more time having a tool maker create the injection molds. There is no telling how much total money was spent to design and manufacture that waste of time.
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Your car doesn't appear to be equipped with the bird cage bushing so don't worry about it.
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