You're probably assuming correctly. Dodge changed the design somewhere along the line but I don't know at what point. My 98' is set up like yours and its factory, but I think I remember reading somewhere some later models still had the bird cage bushing. Dodge probably still had plenty of inventory of the bird cage style and used them anyway as well as using the better designed set up found on our cars.
LOL! Me too Dave. I ordered two bird cage bushings from Tator and had planned to preemptively replace the original and keep a spare handy. After all the contorting to get under the dash and discovering a different set up, I took it apart anyway and made the bushings out of a better material. I had to have something to show for all my trouble.
The same goal could be accomplished with a flanged bushing, a washer, and a cotter pin. BOOM, done. Simpler, stronger, and cheaper too. Some dipshit spent a lot of time designing that turd, then even more time having a tool maker create the injection molds. There is no telling how much total money was spent to design and manufacture that waste of time.
I agree that the birdcage design ended up not being good because it failed way before any reasonable amount of use. However, I would think that the design was done that way in order to address a specific issue that is VERY common in production. That is, reduce parts count and labor cost on an assembly line. Did it come out well? No. But, it is obviously much simpler to install that one part than installing 3 parts and then bending a cotter pin.
So, in conclusion, reference threads whereas people had the plastic pos clips break and leave them stranded, reference my proactive purchase of some plastic clips for my car, end then reference this thread whereas I discover my car and others do not even have the plastic clips, it appears that the *emergency* I was trying to avoid is ENTIRELY FUCKING OVERRATED!
My '00 RT/10 had the plastic birdcage from the factory. When it broke I thought the previous owner must have rigged something up since it didn't make any sense to have something so flimsy connecting something as important as the clutch pedal.
A family friend was the parts manager for a Dodge dealership at the time and ordered me the closest thing to a replacement he could find, which was a flat washer and the metal clip. He had it delivered to the local dealership and all was well. If you happen to have a birdcage car, the metal clip upgrade fits perfectly.
The years of which cars came with what clip apparently remains a mystery.
'00 Viper RT/10 - Totaled by designated driver
'88.5 Ferrari Testarossa - Still have and LOVE it
'01 Viper GTS - Loving it
Can't tell what's in that parts book pic, but looking at that photograph of the plastic bird cage with the screwdriver under it, mine has a metal clip over the end of that exposed shaft. Meaning I'm finding it difficult to figure out where the plastic thing comes in to play on my car.
Dave, this is not what i think i am looking at. I am looking i believe at the end (far left) of the shaft that both clutch and brake pedals pivot on. not the linkage to the clutch and it appears that there is nothing to keep it from sliding off the end of this shaft (other that all the other junk attached to the pedal). i know, that description was probably confusing as hell but its the best way i can describe it. like i said in another thread i will take a picture and see if you will look at it and tell me what you think. thanks
Also bought a couple bird cages based on some of the concerns raised here as a preventative measure, however when I went under the dash to install the clutch lowering kit I'm seeing the same as Dave posted. It's a 97 GTS.
Strangely enough, the two lower clips appear to be new, while the one at the top is somewhat rusted like shown in Dave's pictures. Maybe someone replaced them or I'm looking in the wrong place.
I also preemptively bought a few plastic birdcage clips without checking, and discovered I had the metal ones. If anyone needs a plastic clip I will send it to you for whatever it costs to ship it (parcel should be cheap). send me an email nrsugai(at)gmail(dot)com.
Bringing this dead thread back b/c I've got a master cylinder issue and I have this damn little birdcage clip on the actuator rod, can anyone tell me how to get it off? The only pic I can find shows a screwdriver under it but I feel like I'm going to snap it if I do that, any help would be appreciated.
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