Car not charging? Changed alternator..still not charging - Viper Alley - Dodge Viper Forum -SRT Viper
 
Go Back   Viper Alley - Dodge Viper Forum -SRT Viper » Viper Alley » Viper Discussions - Gen I & II
» Live Feed « · War Room · Graffiti Wall · Arcade · Viper Blogs ·  

Viper Discussions - Gen I & II Discussions of Viper-related subjects covering Gen-I and Gen-II models.

Car not charging? Changed alternator..still not charging

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes

Car not charging? Changed alternator..still not charging
Old September 14th, 2013, 05:27 PM   #1
Enthusiast
 
darkostoj's Avatar
 
darkostoj is offline
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 177
darkostoj is a B-Teamer with 149 pointsdarkostoj is a B-Teamer with 149 points
Rep Power: 12
Car not charging? Changed alternator..still not charging

I'm a bit stumped here.

I have a 99 Viper GTS and it out of the blue just stopped charging the battery system the other day.

I had a known good used alternator I put on the car and I'm still having the same issue.

Any thoughts on what else it could be? I checked all the fuses and they are good as well.

The car has 16k miles on it also.
  Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old September 14th, 2013, 05:36 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Dirtysocks's Avatar
 
Dirtysocks is offline
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Hell
Posts: 3,796
Dirtysocks is not afraid of bears with 23268 pointsDirtysocks is not afraid of bears with 23268 pointsDirtysocks is not afraid of bears with 23268 pointsDirtysocks is not afraid of bears with 23268 pointsDirtysocks is not afraid of bears with 23268 pointsDirtysocks is not afraid of bears with 23268 pointsDirtysocks is not afraid of bears with 23268 pointsDirtysocks is not afraid of bears with 23268 pointsDirtysocks is not afraid of bears with 23268 pointsDirtysocks is not afraid of bears with 23268 pointsDirtysocks is not afraid of bears with 23268 points
Rep Power: 169
Send a message via MSN to Dirtysocks
There is a single wire connection on the driver side engine bay, by the aluminum brace. Physically make sure Its together as they come apart.
  Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Old September 14th, 2013, 05:58 PM   #3
Enthusiast
 
darkostoj's Avatar
 
darkostoj is offline
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 177
darkostoj is a B-Teamer with 149 pointsdarkostoj is a B-Teamer with 149 points
Rep Power: 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirtysocks View Post
There is a single wire connection on the driver side engine bay, by the aluminum brace. Physically make sure Its together as they come apart.
I looked everywhere but didn't see it. All I saw were 2 larger black connectors with the red locking tab on the drivers side inner fenderwell by the brake proportioning valve and power steering pump
  Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Old September 14th, 2013, 06:02 PM   #4
Enthusiast
 
BlknBlu's Avatar
 
BlknBlu is offline
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Omaha NE
Posts: 170
BlknBlu made Varsity with 866 pointsBlknBlu made Varsity with 866 pointsBlknBlu made Varsity with 866 pointsBlknBlu made Varsity with 866 pointsBlknBlu made Varsity with 866 pointsBlknBlu made Varsity with 866 pointsBlknBlu made Varsity with 866 points
Rep Power: 18
how old is the battery?

Bruce
  Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Old September 14th, 2013, 06:05 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
AaronFL's Avatar
 
AaronFL is offline
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: FL
Posts: 375
AaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 points
Rep Power: 16
I think you found the fusible link, which is what I believe Dirtysocks was referring to. Make sure it's nice and snug. Have you used a multi-meter to see what the voltage is coming off the alternator? How old is your battery?

I have a similar issue that I haven't been able to find a solution to yet.
  Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Old September 14th, 2013, 06:19 PM   #6
Enthusiast
 
darkostoj's Avatar
 
darkostoj is offline
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 177
darkostoj is a B-Teamer with 149 pointsdarkostoj is a B-Teamer with 149 points
Rep Power: 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlknBlu View Post
how old is the battery?

Bruce
about 3 months, and its a quality brand

Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronFL View Post
I think you found the fusible link, which is what I believe Dirtysocks was referring to. Make sure it's nice and snug. Have you used a multi-meter to see what the voltage is coming off the alternator? How old is your battery?

I have a similar issue that I haven't been able to find a solution to yet.
I used a multimeter at the alternator and it would just drop slowly while the car ran...same voltage as the PDC
  Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Old September 14th, 2013, 06:34 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
AaronFL's Avatar
 
AaronFL is offline
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: FL
Posts: 375
AaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 points
Rep Power: 16
It is possible that your battery went bad even though it's not that old.

I would start by getting it load tested. Also, check to make sure your battery temperature sensor is okay. I've read that these can cause the battery to not charge if they get shorted out.

Also, you can check for voltage drops by checking the voltage between the + at the PDC and + at the alternator....also between -ground at PDC and alternator case. If these values are high, then that might narrow the problem down.

If you have the service manual, there is a nice diagnostic section for charging issues. There is a PDF of it somewhere on the Alley.
__________________
2016 ACR-E...stock
97 GTS DLM built H/C Paxton TR6060...for sale
  Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Old September 14th, 2013, 06:46 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
AaronFL's Avatar
 
AaronFL is offline
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: FL
Posts: 375
AaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 points
Rep Power: 16
https://www.viperalley.com/forum/vipe...want-98-a.html
  Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Old September 14th, 2013, 07:11 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
dave6666's Avatar
 
dave6666 is offline
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 31,583
dave6666 is not afraid of bears with 34347 pointsdave6666 is not afraid of bears with 34347 pointsdave6666 is not afraid of bears with 34347 pointsdave6666 is not afraid of bears with 34347 pointsdave6666 is not afraid of bears with 34347 pointsdave6666 is not afraid of bears with 34347 pointsdave6666 is not afraid of bears with 34347 pointsdave6666 is not afraid of bears with 34347 pointsdave6666 is not afraid of bears with 34347 pointsdave6666 is not afraid of bears with 34347 pointsdave6666 is not afraid of bears with 34347 points
Rep Power: 257
Vipers can eat batteries due to location / vibration @ location. Brand new means nothing.
  Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Old September 15th, 2013, 01:07 PM   #10
Enthusiast
 
darkostoj's Avatar
 
darkostoj is offline
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 177
darkostoj is a B-Teamer with 149 pointsdarkostoj is a B-Teamer with 149 points
Rep Power: 12
I have never seen a bad battery stop a car from charging before.

It ended up being a loose wire on the pcm plug
  Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Old September 15th, 2013, 01:26 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
AaronFL's Avatar
 
AaronFL is offline
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: FL
Posts: 375
AaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 pointsAaronFL made Varsity with 1336 points
Rep Power: 16
Glad you found the problem. Was it the generator field wire?
  Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Old September 15th, 2013, 02:40 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
dave6666's Avatar
 
dave6666 is offline
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 31,583
dave6666 is not afraid of bears with 34347 pointsdave6666 is not afraid of bears with 34347 pointsdave6666 is not afraid of bears with 34347 pointsdave6666 is not afraid of bears with 34347 pointsdave6666 is not afraid of bears with 34347 pointsdave6666 is not afraid of bears with 34347 pointsdave6666 is not afraid of bears with 34347 pointsdave6666 is not afraid of bears with 34347 pointsdave6666 is not afraid of bears with 34347 pointsdave6666 is not afraid of bears with 34347 pointsdave6666 is not afraid of bears with 34347 points
Rep Power: 257
Quote:
Originally Posted by darkostoj View Post
I have never seen a bad battery stop a car from charging before.

It ended up being a loose wire on the pcm plug
Think about what you are saying there grasshopper. Bad battery... means it's not charging or carrying the load etc, so therefore it isn't charging, at least correctly or completely.

Every bad battery, by definition of a bad battery, does not charge, by definition of a good or correct charge.

That's what the car does; it charges the battery.
  Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Old September 15th, 2013, 03:13 PM   #13
Enthusiast
 
darkostoj's Avatar
 
darkostoj is offline
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 177
darkostoj is a B-Teamer with 149 pointsdarkostoj is a B-Teamer with 149 points
Rep Power: 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by dave6666 View Post
Think about what you are saying there grasshopper. Bad battery... means it's not charging or carrying the load etc, so therefore it isn't charging, at least correctly or completely.

Every bad battery, by definition of a bad battery, does not charge, by definition of a good or correct charge.

That's what the car does; it charges the battery.
well under the circumstances the car was unable to keep itself running because it would eventually drain all current from the battery and shut off. I've never seen a bad battery cause that problem before.
  Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Old September 23rd, 2013, 08:57 AM   #14
Senior Member
 
CWhiteRun's Avatar
 
CWhiteRun is offline
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Dothan, AL
Posts: 515
CWhiteRun is The Man with 2344 pointsCWhiteRun is The Man with 2344 pointsCWhiteRun is The Man with 2344 pointsCWhiteRun is The Man with 2344 pointsCWhiteRun is The Man with 2344 pointsCWhiteRun is The Man with 2344 pointsCWhiteRun is The Man with 2344 pointsCWhiteRun is The Man with 2344 pointsCWhiteRun is The Man with 2344 pointsCWhiteRun is The Man with 2344 pointsCWhiteRun is The Man with 2344 points
Rep Power: 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirtysocks View Post
There is a single wire connection on the driver side engine bay, by the aluminum brace. Physically make sure Its together as they come apart.
What he said. Also, there's a chassis to engine ground on the passengers side chassis that ties to the timing cover. Check that guy out as well. Ive found that when troubleshooting charging issues that it's best to keep a few premade generic parts house starter cables to put in place of/on top of/in addition to the aging OEM grounding points. Measure resistance from engine to chassis....add the testing ground cable in place of/on top of the OEM ground cable and measure resistance again. If the resistance is substantially lower then fire up the car and see if the alternator is charging over 14V after a minute or two.
  Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Old September 23rd, 2013, 09:28 AM   #15
Senior Member
 
zo6cammer's Avatar
 
zo6cammer is offline
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,098
zo6cammer is definately a better person than you are with 381 pointszo6cammer is definately a better person than you are with 381 pointszo6cammer is definately a better person than you are with 381 pointszo6cammer is definately a better person than you are with 381 points
Rep Power: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by dave6666 View Post
Think about what you are saying there grasshopper. Bad battery... means it's not charging or carrying the load etc, so therefore it isn't charging, at least correctly or completely.

Every bad battery, by definition of a bad battery, does not charge, by definition of a good or correct charge.

That's what the car does; it charges the battery.
thats the dumbest exsplanation of a charge system i have heard to date..
  Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Viper Alley - Dodge Viper Forum -SRT Viper » Viper Alley » Viper Discussions - Gen I & II

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Viper Alley - Dodge Viper Forum -SRT Viper forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:
Insurance
Please select your insurance company (Optional)

Log-in



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Postbit Selector
Switch to Left (legacy) postbit Use Vertical (Legacy) Postbit

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Charging system question AJ02 Viper Discussions - Gen I & II 6 June 30th, 2013 07:18 AM
97 GTS battery charging Venumis Viper Discussions - Gen I & II 2 September 9th, 2011 08:40 PM
Charging the battery .... gambler6977 Viper Discussions - Gen I & II 4 May 9th, 2010 03:10 PM
Charging Moton Cannisters ZO6 KLR Viper Discussions - Gen III & IV SRT 4 April 17th, 2007 02:22 PM
When Charging A/C, Can see Freon coming out :( 1MEANSNAKE Viper Discussions - Gen I & II 2 May 31st, 2006 11:16 AM



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:38 AM.

vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
ViperAlley.com is in no way affiliated with Daimler Chrysler. Dodge, Viper, RT/10, the Viper logo and likeness are registered trademarks of Daimler Chrysler.
The contents of this site are owned by ViperAlley.Com and may not be used or reproduced without the express written permission of the Administrator.