Looking for advice on salvage (Engine bay pics pg 6)
Hey all...I am a 3000GT owner. I have touched every single bolt in it, installed turbos, intercooler, injectors, swapped engines, transmissions, even replaced an output shaft with the transmission in the car, all in that little engine bay. I installed all the aftermarket electronics myself, installed a CarPC to monitor everything and to tune with. I even taught myself how to paint, and painted it myself. (pics below)
I found a 95 rt/10 for sale, asking price $20,000. It, of course, has a salvage title. Front end damage. I can get a loan for it (personal loan). I can insure it with liability and collision. I need to inquire about getting the title transferred to Illinois, but it should be no problem.
I make decent, money, but I'm also selling my newly painted 3000GT for $10,000 (upped the value from $4500 with my rookie paint job, excellent!) So, I wouldn't really be making payments out of my pocket til halfway through the loan, even.
The car has been cammed, has headers, and the Unichip Q+ installed. Dyno sheet shows 545 hp and 650 tq or so.
My plan is to drive to see the car tomorrow night. Trying to make an appointment to have it inspected on Saturday morning. I'm not bringing the funds with me, so if the guy needs to have it inspected next week then that's ok, too. So...question...if the inspection comes through, if the frame is totally perfect and there is no evidence of water damage, would this be a decent entry into the whole Viper world? As far as it looks, the car has been fully repaired, but I'll have a professional inspect and sign off on it.
I am very competent with mechanic-work, but I've never worked on engine internals. I can do body work and paint. In fact, I intend to paint this one, probably, once paid off. Sorry for the rambling...someone smack me.
Assuming I can talk him down to $18,000, is this at least reasonable? I've always been told that salvage titles should be avoided like the plague, but if it's 100% fine and repaired, and I don't car too much about resale value, then....pull the trigger???
Gratuitous paint job pics....I would do this Viper in the same yellow once I pay it off.
www dot fragoutmilsim.com/img/car/done.jpg
Last edited by shifty556; September 12th, 2013 at 02:29 PM.
first, what is a ""Unichip Q+"" is that on the viper ?
18K for a viper, regardless of salvage title is fine in my book. you cant get too hurt if its in good shape. id be more worried about tires, new ones gonna cost you 1500 a set ? check head gaskets to see if they have been replaced
The performance work was done by a shop in California post-accident, I'm sure. I'll see all the paperwork Saturday morning. He has the hard top installed, and I already have a buyer for the soft top (how much should I charge?) that's never seen the light of day.
Unichip Q+ is some sort of piggyback fuel controller. The cam in the Viper is mondo-aggressive. Guy says it needs a little encouragement to prevent dying at idle.
And tires look really decent. An older gentleman owns it, pretty wealthy, and seems (I know I can't assume) that he drives it very sensibly.
At the very least, I get a test drive in a very, very powerful car for the price of a 7 hour drive.
Last edited by shifty556; September 6th, 2013 at 06:16 AM.
This question should go in the new owner forum, but since the can of beans is already popped...cost of ownership? My 3000GT VR-4 is not the cheapest car to own...1992 car, 175k on chassis, 20psi and ~450 hp, driven in 20+ Illinois/Iowa winters.
This car is not a stock Viper. It has been modified to include Brembo Evolution HP Brake System, Autoform Viper Hardtop, Unichip Q+ Tuner, NOS kit, and other engine modifications. It has 1988 18" Viper wheels along with a 2002 Viper radio and CD player. Runs good and looks good
Would there be a preferred place to take this car to on Saturday (or have him do it during the week) to get a leakdown test done? I don't mind a 5 hour one-way drive to fiddle around in a Viper, nice little weekend diversion at the very least, but I'd like to do all the right homework.
Dealership? Performance shop? What should I expect to pay?
I appreciate the help very much. I'm not helpless, but I'm a bit in a rush to get some answers so i can critique the car intelligently.
If NOS was listed when I saw the ad, I must have skimmed over it. I do recall the Brembo's, hardtop, etc.
So, as stated, at least I can get the "Viper bug" out of my system, if nothing else. If it should be avoided like the plague, then I will certainly respect your guys' opinions. For the nitrous, I'd like to assume it's like 95% of nitrous installations out there. i.e., someone has it installed when they have their car upgraded and use one bottle of it then stop because it's ridiculously expensive and it's not like a V10 needs it. I know that the nitrous kit is not installed right now, and this owner has had it 100% of the post accident miles. As stated, he is an older gentleman and SEEMS to drive it pretty sensibly. All will be revealed when we see the car and have it checked out.
Would love to grab it if it checks out and if the frame is straight.
Last edited by shifty556; September 6th, 2013 at 06:21 AM.
No, seriously, high-HP rwd cars in that game are way more uncontrollable than I think they oughtta be. I have no frame of reference - my 450hp car is all-wheel drive and I have to really strain to get the wheels to chirp.
I wasn't making a serious point, just trying to be goofy.
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