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Old August 25th, 2013, 11:48 PM   #1
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Black hydraulic clutch fluid?

So having going to the track yesterday I noticed that I was having a hard time grabbing 3 gear in the higher rpms , tonight I noticed the clutch grabbing really close the the floor. So I checked my clutch fluid levels and found this. What the hell? The throw out bearing going out? Clutch cylinder? Click image for larger version

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Old August 26th, 2013, 01:32 AM   #2
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Looks like the clutch fluid is cooking. The rubber seal in your slave is possibly wearing down.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 02:04 AM   #3
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Looks like the clutch fluid is cooking. The rubber seal in your slave is possibly wearing down.
Damn that's what I'm thinking... Should I drain it and replace and watch it?


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Old August 26th, 2013, 07:14 AM   #4
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Try draining it by opening it up on the bottom and letting it gravity drain and fill at the same time. Two people work best for this trick. I used Extreme 6 brake fluid that Mark J from Woodhouse sold me and works great. In fact, I need to refill/flush mine now too as mine is dark again and needs done every few years. If it does not help, new clutch sly or slave cyl I suspect which installs in front of the transmission.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 07:52 AM   #5
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You can always change the clutch fluid using the "turkey baster" method i.e. drawing out fluid from the reservoir, refilling, pumping the clutch to circulate the fluid, and repeating until it is clear.

If it stays clear for like a day then gets dark again, you're probably about to lose your slave cylinder. Check for leaks and puddles under the car after it has been warmed up.

On a side note, you may not want to track the car if you're in the process of trying to sell it.... just my 2 cents.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 08:58 AM   #6
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On a side note, you may not want to track the car if you're in the process of trying to sell it.... just my 2 cents.
Your right, but I ended up get a part time job so I think ill be able to hang on to her until this divorce mess is done


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Old August 26th, 2013, 09:01 AM   #7
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Yea that will definitely do it! If you track your car at all I highly recommend a remote bleeder.

GM cars like my old GTO would do it too, good write up by a z06 guy on the T56 clutch fluid:
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I'd usually alternate ATE Blue and Gold in the clutch but that may change soon since the Govt banned blue recently
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Old August 26th, 2013, 10:24 AM   #8
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Old August 26th, 2013, 10:46 AM   #9
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I've done my fluid several times and it's usually pretty dark. Just bleed it. I use my Mityvac. Makes it a one person job.
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Red GTS, If you're tracking your GTS, You need to keep your hydraulic fluids ( Brake , power steering , and clutch) fresh. Like Gage said a remote bleeder line makes it easy. I'll bet your break fluid looks black also, shine a bright light from the backside of the reservoir and your fluid should look clear, if it doesn't use a clean turkey baister to evacuate the reservoir as much as you can, then filled up with fluid and get on that mighty vac like Dave recommended. Keep pulling fluid out of the caliper bleeders until you get clear fluid losing your brakes on the track is always scary. You can use that cleaned turkey baser to suck all the fluid you can out of the power steering reservoir, then just top it off with good stuff, drive around and do the power steering a couple more times and you're good to go.
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Oh yeah and don't let that master cylinder go dry while you're bleeding , getting air out of the ABS system is no fun, you're going to need a lot of fluid,
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Old August 26th, 2013, 01:16 PM   #12
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For piece of mind I'd disconnect the clutch line going to the slave and press the pedal. It should show a lot of resistance. It would suck to flush everything to find failure. Even worse to replace the slave only to find it was the master cylinder. Ask me how I know lol.
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If the slave is bad it is likely also leaking which will show at the flywheel inspection cover plate area. Yeah, if there's fluid there, no sense bleeding it.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 01:54 PM   #14
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If the slave is bad it is likely also leaking which will show at the flywheel inspection cover plate area. Yeah, if there's fluid there, no sense bleeding it.

I have had the slave go out before and this one in there now has about 6,000 miles on it. I thought it was going out when I noticed that I was having a hard time grab gears at high RPM's and the clutch engaging very close to the floor. Those being the same proplem when the slave was leaking, But no its not leaking. I just think the fuild is shot, Ill drain it and see if it fixes any of the problem
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Old August 26th, 2013, 01:56 PM   #15
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Red GTS, If you're tracking your GTS, You need to keep your hydraulic fluids ( Brake , power steering , and clutch) fresh. Like Gage said a remote bleeder line makes it easy. I'll bet your break fluid looks black also, shine a bright light from the backside of the reservoir and your fluid should look clear, if it doesn't use a clean turkey baister to evacuate the reservoir as much as you can, then filled up with fluid and get on that mighty vac like Dave recommended. Keep pulling fluid out of the caliper bleeders until you get clear fluid losing your brakes on the track is always scary. You can use that cleaned turkey baser to suck all the fluid you can out of the power steering reservoir, then just top it off with good stuff, drive around and do the power steering a couple more times and you're good to go.
I should be more clear when I say track I mean the 1/4 mile type. But I do drive the car hard from time to time so fresh fluids wouldnt hurt. I jsut put fresh Stoptech Racing STR 600 Brake Fluid in the breaks when I bled the whole system 2,000 miles ago
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I'd usually alternate ATE Blue and Gold in the clutch but that may change soon since the Govt banned blue recently
I hadn't head that, but I just looked up the news article... I wonder if that makes the extra sealed bottle of it sitting in my garage worth some extra $$

The law does seem pretty stupid, but at least it sounds like they'll still sell the 'amber' version
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If the leak is small you may not notice it as it can remain in the bellhousing. Thats how my slave was. Put a new one in and had zero clutch pressure. Slapped a new master in and presto!
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I hadn't head that, but I just looked up the news article... I wonder if that makes the extra sealed bottle of it sitting in my garage worth some extra $$

The law does seem pretty stupid, but at least it sounds like they'll still sell the 'amber' version
Govt has determined we're too stupid to know what fluid we put in our vehicles...
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You can always change the clutch fluid using the "turkey baster" method i.e. drawing out fluid from the reservoir, refilling, pumping the clutch to circulate the fluid, and repeating until it is clear.

If it stays clear for like a day then gets dark again, you're probably about to lose your slave cylinder. Check for leaks and puddles under the car after it has been warmed up.

On a side note, you may not want to track the car if you're in the process of trying to sell it.... just my 2 cents.
Did the turkey baster trick and its engaging properly now... Ill keep a eye on it


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It looks black because your engine is black. What's up with that?
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