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Old June 29th, 2012, 09:47 PM   #1
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In the current print issue(Aug, 2012) of C&D has their newest tire test done with Tire Rack. They pit 9 tires in a series of test with 2 E92 BMW 328i coupe(RWD). I am sure in a while the result will be online, but here is the paraphrased results....


9) Pirelli P-Zero(94Y, 220AA A, $161)
8) Dunlop Direzza Star Spec: (90W, 200 A A, $143)
7) Toyo Proxes R1R (91W, 140 AA A, $176)
6) Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2(94Y, 300 AA A, $147)
5) Continental Extremecontact DW (91W, 340 AA A, $133)
4) Hankook Ventus R-S3(94W, 140 A A, $140)
3) Yokohama Advan Neova AD08(91W, 180 AA A, $199)
2) Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Position(91W, 280 AA A, $166)
1) Michelin Pilot Super Sport(94Y, 300 AA A, $177)

The top 3 in each test category:
Dry AutoX: Yokohama(59.7), Michelin(+0.2), Dunlop(+0.5)
Wet AutoX: Continental(62.5), Michelin(+0.1), Goodyear(+0.5)
Dry Braking: Hankook(78), Bridgestone/Continental/Toyo(80, tied), Yokohama(81)
Wet Braking: Goodyear(100), Bridgestone/Toyo(101, tied), Continental/Michelin(103, tied)
Dry Skidpad: Hankook/Yokohama(0.91, tied), Michelin(0.90), Bridgestone(0.89)
Wet Skidpad: Michelin(0.86), Bridgestone(0.85), Goodyear(0.84)
Sound Level at 50mph: Bridgestone/Continental/Goodyear/Michelin/Pirelli(65, tied), Hankook/Toyo/Yokohama(66, tied), Dunlop(67)

Seems like a comprehensive enough test, though I am sure there are more tires they probably could have included. I am sorta surprised to see the placing of the Star Spec being probably the most popular tire for most enthusiasts these days. I am also happy to see my choice came out top. But I do agree with their assessment that the steering feel is a bit lacking. I really can't comment on the wet performance though as I have very little spirited driving miles on these tires in the wet...
Individual rating chart..


I wish they made a 295/30/18 for my ACR fronts in the SSs..
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I wish they made a 295/30/18 for my ACR fronts in the SSs..
300 treadwear rating seem a little to hard of a compound for an ACR. I think the your ACR's suspension is tuned for a softer compound (stock Cups being an 80 rating). If anything I'd head in the opposite direction with Hoosier R6 at 40 rating or Hoosier R100 at a 00 rating.

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I need to buy some new tires for my 69 so your list came at a great time Bushie Bush. I currently have the Bridgestone RE050A Pole Position. Mine have held up very well and have excellent traction in both wet & dry conditions so considering another set.
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300 treadwear rating seem a little to hard of a compound for an ACR. I think the your ACR's suspension is tuned for a softer compound (stock Cups being an 80 rating). If anything I'd head in the opposite direction with Hoosier R6 at 40 rating or Hoosier R100 at a 00 rating.

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Thank's for the suggestion bro..

I want to be able to drive my ACR some of the back roads near my home. HWY 1 Big Sur too. So I'm looking to get another set of wheels with some street tires . Looks like it's going to be PS2s..
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I need to buy some new tires for my 69 so your list came at a great time Bushie Bush. I currently have the Bridgestone RE050A Pole Position. Mine have held up very well and have excellent traction in both wet & dry conditions so considering another set.
No problem man. Glad you found the list helpful..
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300 treadwear rating seem a little to hard of a compound for an ACR. I think the your ACR's suspension is tuned for a softer compound (stock Cups being an 80 rating). If anything I'd head in the opposite direction with Hoosier R6 at 40 rating or Hoosier R100 at a 00 rating.

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I was at Viper days and one of the drivers was running an ACR with Super Sports. He said they were phenomenal and he wouldn't go back to the PSCs unless he was purely tracking the car. I think the Super Sports are using a lot of the elements learned on their LeMans tire program, so they may be surprisingly grippy while offering long life too.

As a side note, let's hope the P-zeros on the new Viper are specialty tires developed for the Viper only and that this list doesn't represent them. My guess is they will be, much like the Vette PSCs seem a level above their brothers/sisters as do the Bridgestones they run on the LF-A Nurburgring.
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I was at Viper days and one of the drivers was running an ACR with Super Sports. He said they were phenomenal and he wouldn't go back to the PSCs unless he was purely tracking the car. I think the Super Sports are using a lot of the elements learned on their LeMans tire program, so they may be surprisingly grippy while offering long life too.

As a side note, let's hope the P-zeros on the new Viper are specialty tires developed for the Viper only and that this list doesn't represent them. My guess is they will be, much like the Vette PSCs seem a level above their brothers/sisters as do the Bridgestones they run on the LF-A Nurburgring.
Do you know what size fronts he had? Thanks..
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Do you know what size fronts he had? Thanks..
I can't say that I do. Sorry. Pretty sure they were stock ACR wheels, so I would guess the 275 or 285-35 18s

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As a side note, let's hope the P-zeros on the new Viper are specialty tires developed for the Viper only and that this list doesn't represent them. My guess is they will be, much like the Vette PSCs seem a level above their brothers/sisters as do the Bridgestones they run on the LF-A Nurburgring.
It would be cool if the P-zeros were Russo's, Russo gives great grip.

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It would be cool if the P-zeros were Russo's, Russo gives great grip.

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Whatever the Pirelli equivalent is to a PSC is an option on the '13 I believe.
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