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Squid April 5th, 2016 09:39 PM

Tire Hierarchy Chart
 
Tire Hierarchy chat - Miata Turbo Forum -Boost cars, acquire cats.

Here is the text - this information is too important to rely on some hosted URL.

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Default Tire Hierarchy chat
Kind of like the suspension thread, I want to establish an easy to find/search list of tires and how well they perform compared to R comps and adjacent in performance summer tires. As always, run a 205 on a 8", run a 225 on a 9", run over yourself you're in SM.

Assumptions: 2 minute road course, 2-3 miles in length, the NT-01 will do a lap in 2 minutes, 205/50R15.
Notes: A 225/45R15 will be -.75 to -1 second faster than a 205.


Fast

Linglong L688 (long live the king)
Hoosier R75 (call the chiropractor)
Hoosier R80 (jesus christ)
Hoosier R100 (more)
BFG R1S (a lot)
Hoosier A6 (-4.0-4.5 depending on weather)
BFG R1
Hoosier SM6/R6 (-3.5, requires aero/skills?)
Hankook C71 (-2.5)
Toyo RR (-2.5)
Continental Grand-Am slick (225/45) (-1)
Maxxis RC-1 (0) (faster under 90F track temp)

Nitto NT-01 (0)

BFG Rivals (+1 or less) (easier to drive)
Hankook Ventus R-S3 (+1 or less)
Toyo R1R (195/50 pixie dust) (+1.5)
Bridgestone RE-11A ($Texas)
Dunlop Direzza ZII
Dunlop Direzza Star Specs Z1
Falken Azenis RT-615
Toyo RA1/R888 (noooooooooooooooooooo)
Slow


In the rain!
BFGoodrich g-Force KDW-R (-1) (depending on how much rain)

Hoosier H20 (0)

Continental Wet (+1?)
Toyo RA-1 (+3)
Toyo R888 (+4)
Everything else (+6)


These lists will be updated fairly regularly with input from you guys!

plumcrazy April 6th, 2016 05:26 AM

thanks for sharing

Drlee50 April 6th, 2016 03:45 PM

Linglong?? WTF?

Squid April 6th, 2016 05:53 PM

LING LONG = HUMOR
I think the Ling Long was a joke - they are total garbage tires. C&D I think wanted to rate them as a 0 out of 10.

Further in that thread, others copy that list w/o the LL's.
MIATA GUYS RATE RIVAL = NT01:
But these guys say Rival = NT01
PROXES r888 FRONTS:
275/35r18 is stock

Which one: 295/35r18 or 295/30r18?
My experience is smaller diameter is better, and smaller aspect ratio is better. (Tbird TurboCoupe: 225/50r16 -v- 225/60r16 are dramatically different.)

99RT10&GTS April 6th, 2016 06:13 PM

Why are the 888s a "Nooooooooooooo"? Not sure what that.means :confused:

Squid April 6th, 2016 06:52 PM

Yeah, I saw that about the 888's too.

My guess 2 possibilities: Miata's take small tires and could be totally unlike 8's on a Viper AND maybe these guys are snooty about a streetable DOT track tire.

GTS Dean April 8th, 2016 10:56 AM

Miatas don't weigh anything and don't have any horsepower. Therefore, the above referenced chart doesn't mean a whole lot for a 3400# car with a minimum of 8.2#/hp. You need to find something similar in an SCCA, NASA, Corvette or Mustang forum.

TrackAire April 10th, 2016 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTS Dean (Post 3885233)
Miatas don't weigh anything and don't have any horsepower. Therefore, the above referenced chart doesn't mean a whole lot for a 3400# car with a minimum of 8.2#/hp. You need to find something similar in an SCCA, NASA, Corvette or Mustang forum.

BINGO.....I'm not sure I've ever even seen a 205 in person, lol.


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