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Old June 11th, 2015, 05:19 AM   #1
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Another track tire question..

Been running R6's full time for about 6 years now.. Car sees 4k miles a year and plus a couple of track days. Looking to try something different and maybe better.. I've noticed there are a couple more choices available now for the stock 18/19 setup.

Anyone with experience with the Nitto NTO5R - they are drag tires - are they any good for tracking and daily drive??

Or the Nitto Invo's?

Or how about the Toyo Proxes R888?

Or the R7's?

And the Michelin Cups - are the sidewalls as pussy soft as the Super Sports?
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Old June 12th, 2015, 09:24 AM   #2
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I got the Toyo R888's a few months back and I tracked them for the first time this weekend. It was the first racing compound tire that I ever used, so I really have nothing to compare them to.

However, they were super sticky and grippy. I felt glued to the track the entire time. The only draw back is that I don't think they are going to last very long. Any more than a few track days a year and I think they'd need to be replaced fairly quickly. I don't think I'll get any more than two years out of these with tracking only a couple of times a year.

I believe they were about $1200 for the set, so it's not entirely bad to have to change them out every couple of years.
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Old June 12th, 2015, 10:46 PM   #3
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A DOT R compound tire better than an R7? I doubt it. If you've been running R6's I don't think you'll be happy with Cups.

Make sure to reverse the tires on the rims to extend their useful life. I tried to convince my buddy to do this with his R6's but he never did. As a result, he corded his fronts and there's still a lot of rubber left on the inside half of the tires. I'm trying to get him to dial in a little more negative camber in the front as well.

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Anyone with experience with the Nitto NTO5R - they are drag tires - are they any good for tracking and daily drive??


NO! Do not use the NTO5R's for track day tires. I just bought a set for TI(Roll racing) and they hook great going straight. That's what they are designed for. Any turns at all and you feel like you have marshmallows for tires.

My 19" Invo's are fine for daily driving, but the R6's hook better but I only get 3K miles maybe. I have Proxes R888 on my 18" wheels and love them but I rarely run 18" wheels.
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I have a set of nitto invo's on my gen4 on the stock 18-19" configuration and they are great for daily driving but not very desirable for track days.

When I bought the car, I picked it up in San Antonio and drove back to Houston in torrential rain. The invo's did just fine, remarkable actually. They will definitely last a long time.

I tracked my viper for the first time, i'm not a novice driver, at TWS in May and discovered the tires have a pretty bad overheating problem if driven anywhere beyond 7/10. They just get hard to handle and do not inspire much confidence, especially when coming off the front straight at 160mph.

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Through most of the 2000's Speed Vision World Challenge racers had to run shaved Toyo R888's. I was surprised how good those tires were on a track. However they were factory shaved and I never ran them on the street. My guess is, the R888's (non shaved) are probably a little better track tire but probably not as nice on the street as the Envo's. I run Envo's on the street. I ran an old set of shaved R888's back to back with a set of old Hoosiers. The thing I noticed most was, the Hoosiers were more forgiving with sloppy wheel input where the R888's were sensitive on turn in but when the suspension set, the tires stuck almost as well as the Hoosiers. Now A6 Hoosiers are a different story altogether. R6's will last much longer but aren't as soft as A6's. I tried most of these combos years ago on a GTS race car.
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R7 is ~as fast as the A6, which was a decent amount (couple seconds) faster than the R6.

Your R6 is over a second faster than the Michelin Cups & R888 which are seconds quicker than the Invos.

Stick with the R6 or go to R7. If your change of tire is due to street ability, go with Pilot Super Sports which aren't that far off the R888.
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