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October 19th, 2019 03:39 AM
blknblubkrdude I'm only slightly late to the party. How did these headers ever turn out?
February 18th, 2014 03:02 PM
FLATOUT
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Originally Posted by Disturbed 01 View Post
How did the install go? When are you hitting the dyno?
Install is done ended up great! Tried to get it on the dyno today but they are booked with two big projects this week and I want it on the same dyno I have been using for all of my pulls. I should get it on the rollers next Monday or Tuesday weather permitting.

Trying to get a decent video of it with sound this week though. Want to head out at night and see if I can catch some flames coming out of the side lol.

Wife birthday today though so I doubt I will get any video tonight.

Andy
February 18th, 2014 02:38 PM
Disturbed 01 How did the install go? When are you hitting the dyno?
February 15th, 2014 12:02 AM
FLATOUT Well got a bunch of work done tonight. My daughters first birthday party is tomorrow so I'll get it running at some point this weekend.




February 14th, 2014 05:11 PM
Disturbed 01
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I'll tackle that throttlebody mod once this one is done and settled in. BTW reason I haven't finished up this install is I noticed one of the coolant lines coming out of the heater core was leaking at the crimp. I figured I should go ahead and fix it while everything was torn down on the exhaust side. New coolant line came in today so trying to get it on tonight.
Awesome. Can't wait to see how the TB's come out.

Good idea to fix that coolant line now than have to be towed because it busted while running at the track.
February 14th, 2014 04:38 PM
FLATOUT I'll tackle that throttlebody mod once this one is done and settled in. BTW reason I haven't finished up this install is I noticed one of the coolant lines coming out of the heater core was leaking at the crimp. I figured I should go ahead and fix it while everything was torn down on the exhaust side. New coolant line came in today so trying to get it on tonight.
February 14th, 2014 03:49 PM
Disturbed 01
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I honestly think with a exhaust like this, and big pri header and some intake tricks even without tuning I'm hoping to tickle that 650Whp mark this year!
On the intake side get a pair of Pentstar V6 TB's. I posted the pic earlier. Larger TB's have always been with around 10rwhp on Vipers. But with these killer heads, it should be ATLEAST that, maybe a touch more....assuming the Venom Controler doesn't freak out.
February 14th, 2014 03:44 PM
Revolution
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Me too.
I honestly think with a exhaust like this, and big pri header and some intake tricks even without tuning I'm hoping to tickle that 650Whp mark this year!
February 14th, 2014 03:31 PM
Disturbed 01
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If the tuning solution allows for a non cam in cam setup I think easily would be an appropriate word to get over 650Rwhp! I have my fingers crossed.
Me too.
February 14th, 2014 03:26 PM
Revolution
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You could be right. But I'm not sure about easily. I hate to over estimate.

A good cam is needed badly too. But I don't think the aftermarket would ever do it. It would be nice to get the OE supplier to make a nice fat street cam and a set of roller rockers. Then I wouldn't be surprised to see north of 700rwhp, all motor and 93 pump gas. 725rwhp all motor in an all out built motor, big cube, stroker ect) effort on pump gas would be possible I think. It just goes to show how badly these cars are choked to death from the fed regulations.

NA motors never pick up power as easily as a boosted motor. So Gaines start to get tougher.

But for reference a Gen 2 can go from low 400rwhp to 600rwhp. So I suppose its not out of the question to go from low 500rwhp to 700rwhp. It def give me hope to think these things can break 700rwhp all motor. We just need the aftermarket to jump on board or it will never happen.
If the tuning solution allows for a non cam in cam setup I think easily would be an appropriate word to get over 650Rwhp! I have my fingers crossed.
February 14th, 2014 03:12 PM
Disturbed 01
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I think tuning is going to rip open the NA potential of these motors and your going to see north of 650Whp easily!
You could be right. But I'm not sure about easily. I hate to over estimate.

A good cam is needed badly too. But I don't think the aftermarket would ever do it. It would be nice to get the OE supplier to make a nice fat street cam and a set of roller rockers. Then I wouldn't be surprised to see north of 700rwhp, all motor and 93 pump gas. 725rwhp all motor in an all out built motor, big cube, stroker ect) effort on pump gas would be possible I think. It just goes to show how badly these cars are choked to death from the fed regulations.

NA motors never pick up power as easily as a boosted motor. So Gaines start to get tougher.

But for reference a Gen 2 can go from low 400rwhp to 600rwhp. So I suppose its not out of the question to go from low 500rwhp to 700rwhp. It def give me hope to think these things can break 700rwhp all motor. We just need the aftermarket to jump on board or it will never happen.
February 14th, 2014 01:27 PM
Revolution
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Flatout....looking forward to to seeing how this works out. I'm exspecting good Gaines. The Gen4/Gen5 heads are very good stock. Now if we could get a tune I'm sure there is another 25-35rwhp hiding in there. These cars are going to be SOOOOOO close to 650rwhp, NA with BOLT-ONs. I'm not sure any production car can say that. Sure, many can do it with FI but to do it NA is a credit to the design team.
I think tuning is going to rip open the NA potential of these motors and your going to see north of 650Whp easily!
February 14th, 2014 01:23 PM
Disturbed 01 Flatout....looking forward to to seeing how this works out. I'm exspecting good Gaines. The Gen4/Gen5 heads are very good stock. Now if we could get a tune I'm sure there is another 25-35rwhp hiding in there. These cars are going to be SOOOOOO close to 650rwhp, NA with BOLT-ONs. I'm not sure any production car can say that. Sure, many can do it with FI but to do it NA is a credit to the design team.
February 13th, 2014 01:36 PM
FLATOUT Thanks guys, It's SS I believe, I'm sure Matt or Mitch can chime in with what coating they are using. Hope to get it fired up this weekend.
February 13th, 2014 01:28 PM
Tiago looks clean!
February 13th, 2014 01:15 PM
Simms Beautiful! Dig the V clamp setup. Aluminum or SS exhaust?
February 13th, 2014 12:58 PM
PaulP That's sick, cant wait to hear a clip
February 13th, 2014 09:46 AM
dave6666 Black ceramic?
February 13th, 2014 09:38 AM
FLATOUT I'll go ahead and update this thread as well with last nights work.

Love the V band clamps and the slip fit connections. Mitch killed it on these!





February 11th, 2014 06:40 PM
Revolution
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Well we have the record at the Texas mile and won Hastings last year. I also believe that we also have the fastest quarter mile but that's hard to say. That's why we make them this way. There is power under the curve as well as peek power that all make a difference. We have had very good luck with this design and can also install them yourself.
Thanks I already have a set of your 1 3/4" on the car along with my own exhaust
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