Well Holy Shit, that was fucking helpful! Way to "Monday morning quarterback" this thing! Now all you have to do is figure out that whole pesky time travel thing and you can fix everyones problems!
Idiot.
Well there's a reason he's giving "handjobs for crack" with only 14 posts.
S.
Had a Roe, on my 94 Gen 1. Installed myself, and had a couple of questions during the install. Called and had my questions answered on the spot, and no issues. The fuel in AZ is 91 octane, and I had Sean reprogram the computer card due to a slight amount of detonation, and it solved the problem. Not one time did Roe Racing let me down. Always did what they said they would do. I was a very happy customer.
Sean Roe is a man who I greatly admire. I was one of the first to get his supercharger - #35, I think. He has been very helpful to me from day one with all aspects of the supercharger from installation to custom tuning mine.
He also is a Class Act which at least one other tuner should emulate. An employee (now ex-employee) botched a job real badly and Sean Roe returned the $7,000 to the customer that the customer had spent (are you listening Larry Macedo?).
The Roe supercharger makes a great car perfect. Only if you want insane amounts of power would you go to something else. I'm only with a Paxton because the Roe supercharger can't flow enough air to get to the power level that my former tuner promised (liar, liar pants on fire) and Underground Racing promised to take me to the power level my former tuner promised for the least amount of money. (Underground Racing actually got me much more power and their tune is so good that I can only say great things about them.)
My rebuilt Roe supercharger is still for sale, BTW.
__________________ Kenny's Viper built and tuned right by Underground Racing 1,021 rwHP and 955 rwTorque using catalytic converters and 93 octane pump gas - 20.0 MPG HWY and a whole lot less driven normally!
Well, I would not buy the Roe or deal with Roe, that is for sure. I have their power steering brackert and pulley as well s their supercharger, W/M, et cetera. With the Roe power steering bracket and pulley for my GEN II not including instructions, as opposed to their normal poorly written instructions (other do it yourselfers can vouch for this), the pulley comes out too short and isn't noticed. There were three spacers included in the kit, but seeing that the bracket was the exact same thickness of the old one, using the same pump, I figured it might be for a different diameter bracket. I carefully compared bracket thickness and installed it all up and then ran the car for a few hundred miles. I come to find out today as my belt is getting chewed up that the PS pump pulley is too far back. ere the pulley they sell needs makes the bracket need additional spacing and instead of putting this space into the bracket, they use spacers! Well without instructions in the kit, how do you know to even use them-to make it worse, they are used between the bracket they sell and the head (THINK: WHY NOT MODIFY THE BRACKET!?!?!). Well, another problem is that there are no bolts included with their kit so they want you to put 1/4" spacers between the bracket and the head and use the stock length bolts and that frankly doesn't sit well with me as there isn't much bolt to bite into the head in my opinion. Roe says it is okay, you only need 7/16" of an inch, I say BULLSHIT and I am buying new bolts. Oh yes, another Roe famous line and I have heard this before "we never heard of anyone have a problem with that before". Well, I stopped using Roe and bought this from one of the dealers that I am very happy with, but another reason I would not buy from them and will avoid their products. So folks, if you need a power steering pump pulley and or bracket, I would BUY ELSEWHERE PLAIN AND SIMPLY. Sure I could not post, but I have shit my mouth too long about their service and the response when there is any problems. I can get VERY DETAILED in their instruction problems as I did the Roe Blower myself. I have no problem with their blower either, but their service sucks. Hell when I bought my blower they had the wrong bolts enclosed, instructions sucked, you call and put up with their manager Dave's attitude like he is Mr. car guru saying "it is simple physics". I almost laughed at that, thinking "man I am SURE I took more physics that this guy". One thing that I know is a lot of Alley members have helped me or offered helped and I have loyalty towards many of you and I feel that at this point I am just spilling it-I WILL NOT BUY A ROE PRODUCT NOR DEAL WITH THEM, THIS IS ENOUGH BULLSHIT. It cost me a $47 (with tax) belt, 3 more hours of R&R, and now new bolts (I REFUSE to use the OEM bolts 1/4" less penetration into the head) and a headache. The attitude of "we never had this problem before" makes it seem like "only you can be this stupid" or "you have NO IDEA what you are doing and should stick to flipping burgers". How about "I am very sorry, we should enclose instructions and longer bolts" or "we are revising the bracket to the correct height and not use spacers and will enclose bolts" but I AM SICK OF THE ROE BULLSHIT RESPONSES and I have heard the same complaints about their service, but many are afraid to post as they feel like they need them. My SC works fine but the support was less than steller on that, wrong bolts enclosed with kit, along with crappy instructions and attitude from Dave (condecending would be a good description). This last power steering experience pulley and bracket is just crossed the line on my end, so the cup spillith over onto the Alley. Amen
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Now that the prices of virtually everything are going up and up and now that thousands of people are losing their jobs everyday as the US goverment still hands out 10,000+ checks to those people just getting off the boat, I think I will take a boat ride and get in line, I sure could use the money to pay for the gas in my Viper and GTO!
Well, I would not buy the Roe or deal with Roe, that is for sure. I have their power steering brackert and pulley as well s their supercharger, W/M, et cetera. With the Roe power steering bracket and pulley for my GEN II not including instructions, as opposed to their normal poorly written instructions (other do it yourselfers can vouch for this),
I know this doesn't help you, but maybe because of you....others will know. The p/s bracket I just got for a customers car had instructions for it and the p/s pulley combined. It shouldn't be a problem for future purchasers.
Personally, I would recommend the billet pulley from Daves Brakes instead of the steel pulley from Roe. Dave has a pulley/bracket combo deal that is a good one ($210)
If I were doing just the bracket .....Roe is $20 cheaper.
To bad you were treated that way, no excuse. There is some benefit to using a dealer
When you speak of "normal poorly written instructions" If you are talking about the S/C instructions I will have to strongly disagree. They couldn't do much more other than hold your hand IMO.
Maybe some other DIY S/C guys will chime in.
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1996 GTS CPE TWIN TURBO !!
Old Roe s/c numbers:
9.28 @ 151mph with nitrous
9.68 @ 144mph no nitrous
10.41 @ 149mph on Pilots
Greg Good cylinder heads and cam !!
2004 black SRT10 (SOLD)
I'll have to agree with Tony, the Supercharger instructions were very detailed and easy to follow. I had a couple of questions and the guys at Roe were very helpfull.
Don't know why you got treated so bad, sorry to hear that.
When you speak of "normal poorly written instructions" If you are talking about the S/C instructions I will have to strongly disagree. They couldn't do much more other than hold your hand IMO.
Maybe some other DIY S/C guys will chime in.
This would REALLY depend on the version of instructions you received as they changed over the years. I have no idea what he gives now-hell even the kit with the SC I received had the wrong bolts in it, too many of this, too few of this. Sean did make this right and he found out all the bags of bolts they had sorted were wrong. The one picture in the instructions were wrong and I was told "oh, I didn't notice that before" and such, but anyhow I imagine that they changed as well as clarifying some ambiguities. This was a few years back however. I also was not told my PCM was going to need replaced, it was only afterwards I had it installed-there was NEVER a mention before that it was even a possibility despite a lot of different conversations with Roe Racing. I don't want to hijack the thread here, but I could give you details as to why the instruction that I received were hosed up. I didn't even get any instructions with the PS bracket and pulley, but Dan from ViperSpeciality helped me out. Anyhow, off to make a dollar @ work
I have to say I have had nothing but stellar service from Roe and couldn't be happier with the Roe blower!
Install instructions with the blower, VEC and W/M were all idiot proof.
Any questions I have had post-install have always been promptly answered. I even had Sean go WAY beyond the call of duty and return a call on a Sunday about a minor question.
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