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Old May 8th, 2008, 10:25 PM   #181
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explain the Karma you speek of please....
You're a whiny guy who spreads rumors in order to downplay the thrashing you guys were getting. I can think of nobody else in the competition I would wish to get taken out by a freak accident. However, you are a poor sportsman who is an embarrassment to your fellow racers. That's the Kharma of which I "speek."

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Old May 8th, 2008, 10:28 PM   #182
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I think you can excuse John for saying things about you after you made a boat load of ridiculous assertions based on nothing by hearsay. You have looked for nothing but excuses as to why the Viper decimated, destroyed, and embarassed the other cars. You try to claim it was some super modified top secret car, when in fact it is a mostly stock car with air filters, headers, exhaust, arguably worse suspension (not for the Ps2 though) and worse tires.
the viper having the things i said it has makes it a better engineered car...

and obviously its fast so of course i thought they were working good...


to me... this is a complement.... and in no way was i saying the car was a cheater car....
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Old May 8th, 2008, 10:31 PM   #183
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I am gonna butt out so I don't get banned for posting smack in SRT. Leh, I am glad you and your codriver were not hurt, but try to be more sportsmanlike in the future. Nobody likes a sore loser.
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Old May 8th, 2008, 10:32 PM   #184
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You're a whiny asshole who spreads rumors in order to downplay the assbeating you guys were getting. I can think of nobody else in the competition I would wish to get taken out by a freak accident. However, you are a poor sportsman who is an embarrassment to your fellow racers. That's the Kharma of which I "speek."


ok.. i could do without the personal attacks..... duno if thats necessary....



i think Karma would be more like.... you wishing we would get takin out of a freek accident (which we did and was dangerous,,, Donnie could have gotten hurt... i wasnt in the car)...... and then something happening to you..... which i never want anything like that to happen to anyone.... even tho im a A-hole... as u say....
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Old May 8th, 2008, 10:42 PM   #185
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Old May 8th, 2008, 10:49 PM   #186
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Old May 8th, 2008, 10:50 PM   #187
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ok.. i could do without the personal attacks..... duno if thats necessary....

i think Karma would be more like.... you wishing we would get takin out of a freek accident (which we did and was dangerous,,, Donnie could have gotten hurt... i wasnt in the car)...... and then something happening to you..... which i never want anything like that to happen to anyone.... even tho im a A-hole... as u say....
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If you read some back in the posts, I was on your ASS too. I will be as I have stated before out of my league on a RR course. I am a DRAGRACER. I'M CURRENTLY LIC. IN THE NHRA (S/C AND TAD)...I'm not going to drop names but lets jus say I'm pretty good friends since childhood w/some legends and current stars.
Even though I smell NITRO, AND ITS A DIFFERENT WORLD...I QUESTION YOUR PROFESSIONALISM. YOU REPEATEDLY DENIED THE VIPER ITS DUE CREDIT. THE VIPER WENT OUT AND FELL ON ITS FACE OUTTA THE GATE REF. THE SKID PAD EVENT. AFTER THAT CHRIS, AND THE J.H. TEAM VIPER WAXED THE COMPETITION'S ASS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. INCLUDING YOUR TEAM. THAT'S JUS RACING.

SO, I'M ASKING YOU AS ONE LIC. DRIVER TO ANOTHER...TO HAVE SOME FUCKING RESPECT FOR THE VIPER AND J.H. CREW.

I HAVE BEEN BEAT AND WAXED AND GATED AND UNDER SCRUTINY AND AS A MAN BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT..."HEY HE BEAT MY ASS, THEY WERE THE BETTER CAR TODAY...HE GOT ME ON THE LIGHTS" ETC. ETC.
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Old May 8th, 2008, 11:37 PM   #188
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man... all caps just makes me feel like your yelling at me.....

and yelling IM ON YOUR ASS.....



i duno why you guys thought i was downing the viper.... i can read the times and see how stupid fast it is.... and i saw the car on track.... all week i said.. dang that things fast.. dang its set up well.... and me saying it has all that eltronic stuff isnt supposed to take away credit... if anything its just saying the car is more engendered then what it already is.. which would be even better...

the person that built it would hafta take it as a complement...

ALMS cars use TC and trick difs.... along with alot of awsome fast cars.....

i just dont see where me saying that.... turned into me making up excused of why i was getting beat and taking away credit from the viper...


u guys are sensitive.....
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man... all caps just makes me feel like your yelling at me.....

and yelling IM ON YOUR ASS.....



i duno why you guys thought i was downing the viper.... i can read the times and see how stupid fast it is.... and i saw the car on track.... all week i said.. dang that things fast.. dang its set up well.... and me saying it has all that eltronic stuff isnt supposed to take away credit... if anything its just saying the car is more engendered then what it already is.. which would be even better...

the person that built it would hafta take it as a complement...

ALMS cars use TC and trick difs.... along with alot of awsome fast cars.....

i just dont see where me saying that.... turned into me making up excused of why i was getting beat and taking away credit from the viper...


u guys are sensitive.....
Guess you may not know what the Viper is all about. Its about raw performance. Some guys jump at the newest paddle shifting, torque sensing, or traction contol and active handling, but the viper is a raw and pure sports car. If someone says "thats got this changed, this added, and no longer has this" it is implying that a stock or very close to stock acr can not perform like that. Many of us, ( I am sure their are exceptions) dont want that stuff on our cars. We want just us and the car. Hope that helps. You seem like a pretty good guy now. Hope you have better luck next year and am glad nobody got hurt.
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man... all caps just makes me feel like your yelling at me.....

and yelling IM ON YOUR ASS.....



i duno why you guys thought i was downing the viper.... i can read the times and see how stupid fast it is.... and i saw the car on track.... all week i said.. dang that things fast.. dang its set up well.... and me saying it has all that eltronic stuff isnt supposed to take away credit... if anything its just saying the car is more engendered then what it already is.. which would be even better...

the person that built it would hafta take it as a complement...

ALMS cars use TC and trick difs.... along with alot of awsome fast cars.....

i just dont see where me saying that.... turned into me making up excused of why i was getting beat and taking away credit from the viper...


u guys are sensitive.....
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Lol, no not sensitive. Jus want respect for the Viper in which I see you've stated that. Thanks.
As far as the CAP thing. I'm gonna try and Cap curb myself. That damn Italian temper again.
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the viper having the things i said it has makes it a better engineered car...

and obviously its fast so of course i thought they were working good...


to me... this is a complement.... and in no way was i saying the car was a cheater car....
Even I can explain this to you, your statement here is what got the viper community riled up... You assumed that putting an electronic rear differential, traction control and stability control into a car makes it a better engineered car. Which is a big no no in the viper community, the viper has always been about no traction control no nanny tech what so ever its a car with a front mounted engine and RWD producing 600HP with NO computer aids, in the minds of most (including myself) it is one of the last if not last true drivers cars in the world.

On top of that your equating the vipers success to some ridiculous amount of modifications while the fact remains its a near stock car with simple headers, exhaust and filter. You came off as saying the viper couldnt do as well without said technology or such massive upgrades. Thats where people got mad at you about.
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the viper having the things i said it has makes it a better engineered car...

and obviously its fast so of course i thought they were working good...


to me... this is a complement.... and in no way was i saying the car was a cheater car....
queen ley-a, you say stupid things and as a result are going to get called out. your latest foot in the mouth is to suggest that the acr in ola is running some special cheater tires. duh, the acr comes from the factory with sport cups. do you think we got to run them in the ola? no, we had to get tires from tire rack like everybody else.

i have nothing against you, but when you start saying stupid things about our car i will set you straight. glad you are ok and sorry you are not still in the race.
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Even I can explain this to you, your statement here is what got the viper community riled up... You assumed that putting an electronic rear differential, traction control and stability control into a car makes it a better engineered car. Which is a big no no in the viper community, the viper has always been about no traction control no nanny tech what so ever its a car with a front mounted engine and RWD producing 600HP with NO computer aids, in the minds of most (including myself) it is one of the last if not last true drivers cars in the world.

On top of that your equating the vipers success to some ridiculous amount of modifications while the fact remains its a near stock car with simple headers, exhaust and filter. You came off as saying the viper couldnt do as well without said technology or such massive upgrades. Thats where people got mad at you about.
NOT TO MENTION ITS A MAJOR DISS TO THE DRIVERS, WHO ARE DOING THE ASS KICKING WITHOUT THE DA'S! (But maybe you wouldn't know about that, if you have never competed in a Viper or similar No-Gizmo car). I have actually been surprised at John's diplomacy, and that the one comment you point out is all that has come out from him. Take a lesson in class from him, and move on. You aren't that good of a driver (or you would be in F1, IRL, NASCAR or a ROLEX car)...and by putting "king" in your name, makes you seem arrogant, which you apparently are. Getting bent because someone spelled your name incorrectly? Any you can't seem to spell anyway. These are just observations, not flaming you. I think everyone appreciated your input on the events, just not the disrespect of the Viper and its team, esp drivers. Learn from this and bring a measure of diplomacy when you talk about the race. Simply put, the more you respect others, the more you will gain the respect of others.
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Nice pics, Hope to race next year. Unfortunatly I think I would just buy a C5 and do some simple mods instead of a racing my viper.
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In this next picture you can see the mysterious traction control and roll control device.
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