As most know I have a truck that is the worlds largest abortion. It turns out that the reason it dropped so many oil pumps was due to how the block was prepped early on. I don't want to go into details as I'm not going to bash anyone. Proline has figured out what is wrong and sadly the only solution is a new block.
So does anyone have an extra block laying around from a truck? I'm told the blocks are different then the cars. I know I'll likely end up having to buy a complete motor, but thought I would try this first.
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I think the difference in the blocks is more of a mounting issue. Just different brackets, etc. It would just be easier to have a truck block. Of course, two complete motors just sold for 5k or under in the past week on ebay, but none are listed now. Damnit!
Call Kevin @ Exotic Engine Development you ncan get his number from the website....he's got "new" block's you would'nt have to buy a complete engine that way
Call Kevin @ Exotic Engine Development you ncan get his number from the website....he's got "new" block's you would'nt have to buy a complete engine that way
like i said, call him the block even has the main cap's!
I'd rather part ways than haggle over who's going to pay for what. I should have done more research prior to this abortion of a vehicle. I pretty much blame myself. I could easily have a fully done TT viper for what I have in this POS that isn't even currently running. It's bad when 80% of the miles on your vehicle were done driving back and forth to the tuner.
I'd rather part ways than haggle over who's going to pay for what. I should have done more research prior to this abortion of a vehicle. I pretty much blame myself. I could easily have a fully done TT viper for what I have in this POS that isn't even currently running. It's bad when 80% of the miles on your vehicle were done driving back and forth to the tuner.
I understand your position, and dont know if this was done before/after you acquired the truck.
However, there is only one way a crank centerline gets moved: SLOPPY WORK. It was not bored close enough to size, and was finish honed removing too much material, effectively moving the centerline into the softer block, away from the caps. Either that, or it was set up incorrectly from the start. Either way, no excuse.
If it was your dollar that went into doing it, you should certainly be persuing it. If you bought the truck that way, thats a much tougher position, and I can understand that.
If it was on your dime, go to an independant and measure it, see how far its out using your OEM caps as a guide if you have them. If its into the block any more than .003, you have a solid case for getting a new block. When it happened to us, it was out a solid .010, and when showed to the responsible machine shop in writing and on their own bench, they buckled and payed for it in about 5 minutes, knowing it was full well on them. Ever since, we hold our (new) machine shops hand with every engine, and I double check every engine myself. We also have decided to never sub-out our engine rebuilds, knowing that machine shops dont often look at these engines the way we do.
These are not chevy blocks. These are not iron blocks. These are not dime a dozen. Dont treat them like that, or you will be sorry! They dont have a dozen different O/S main bearings to chose from. they have ONE size. Screw up the mains twice, and the block is toast, no matter what- and those O/S mains wont even work in some cases/build types.
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'04 White Mamba Viper SRT-10
'08 Black Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT-8
The only reason I won't go after the machine shop is due to family issues. My father is very good friends with the person that owns the place. It isn't worth putting stress on my father over the situation. They are very well known in the racing world, but they aren't viper people and it showed. I know why it happened and how it happened. At this point I'm just glad to know WHY it happened. Now I just want it fixed right (which is why it is at UG) and to move on. I can't sell something unless I know 100% it is done right.
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