I did some searching but still had a few questions.
Alright, from what I hear its normally around $20k to twin turbo a Gen III..?
That $20k number, does it include a built motor or is that just the twin turbo kit installed and tuned? I realize that every company is different so im assuming this is a round about number? I believe it was UGR who I heard does it for around this price but I may be wrong.
Around what type of power (Max safe rwhp/rwtq) are you going to be making on a stock motor with tt setup and of course fuel ect.?
With these big power setups (north of 1000rwhp), is driveablity anywhere normal? I know with big power n/a engines driveability generally sucks but I have "heard" that with a turbo on a v10 that is a lot better( due to tq?) ?
This questions are probally stupid but I knew most of you guys have had experience with tt cars and would know. Thanks for any help.
I did some searching but still had a few questions.
Alright, from what I hear its normally around $20k to twin turbo a Gen III..?
That $20k number, does it include a built motor or is that just the twin turbo kit installed and tuned? I realize that every company is different so im assuming this is a round about number? I believe it was UGR who I heard does it for around this price but I may be wrong.
Around what type of power (Max safe rwhp/rwtq) are you going to be making on a stock motor with tt setup and of course fuel ect.?
With these big power setups (north of 1000rwhp), is driveablity anywhere normal? I know with big power n/a engines driveability generally sucks but I have "heard" that with a turbo on a v10 that is a lot better( due to tq?) ?
This questions are probally stupid but I knew most of you guys have had experience with tt cars and would know. Thanks for any help.
CPE is offering a turbo system installed with 67 mm turbos, engine management, and a basic fuel system for 15-16k. This will probably make 750-800 RWHP on your motor at most because of the cast pistons. However, if you were to get the engine built and a higher output fuel pump and lines, you could see 1200-1300 RWHP, possibly more. The torque with TTs on these motors is fantastic. It comes on smoothly early in the powerband and pulls harder and harder until redline. It's quite controllable considering the numbers these cars make. The car will idle as quiet as stock if not quieter and gets great fuel economy (high 20s, low 30s).
CPE is offering a turbo system installed with 67 mm turbos, engine management, and a basic fuel system for 15-16k. This will probably make 750-800 RWHP on your motor at most because of the cast pistons. However, if you were to get the engine built and a higher output fuel pump and lines, you could see 1200-1300 RWHP, possibly more. The torque with TTs on these motors is fantastic. It comes on smoothly early in the powerband and pulls harder and harder until redline. It's quite controllable considering the numbers these cars make. The car will idle as quiet as stock if not quieter and gets great fuel economy (high 20s, low 30s).
Does this kit from CPE dump the exhaust out at the wastegate or is it routed back into the exhaust system?
CPE is offering a turbo system installed with 67 mm turbos, engine management, and a basic fuel system for 15-16k. This will probably make 750-800 RWHP on your motor at most because of the cast pistons. However, if you were to get the engine built and a higher output fuel pump and lines, you could see 1200-1300 RWHP, possibly more. The torque with TTs on these motors is fantastic. It comes on smoothly early in the powerband and pulls harder and harder until redline. It's quite controllable considering the numbers these cars make. The car will idle as quiet as stock if not quieter and gets great fuel economy (high 20s, low 30s).
And the real question is .... will the stock internals hold up to 750-800 RWHP? Penny wise and dollar foolish is my concern. It seems to be well documented that the cast stock, pistons would be the weak link.
Does this kit from CPE dump the exhaust out at the wastegate or is it routed back into the exhaust system?
I know that it is easier to dump them to the ground, but I believe for additional charge, they can be re routed. Call Paolo for specifics on this 630-878-3907.
And the real question is .... will the stock internals hold up to 750-800 RWHP? Penny wise and dollar foolish is my concern. It seems to be well documented that the cast stock, pistons would be the weak link.
Paxton cars run 600 RWHP on stock internals with higher IATs. A Paxton car with 600 RWHP is most likely doing 80-100 RWHP work into the blower. I don't see any reason why a turbo car couldn't produce 700-750 without problem. The CPE system can also be had with water meth which would allow you to run even a little more timing/boost ect. and make nearer to 800 RWHP whilst keeping combustion temperatures similar to lower levels (ie less chance for detonation). The powdered rods are strong enough to hold the power as long as there is NO detonation...none...nada. Would I prefer to build the engine? Yes. Is it absolutely necessary to make 700+ RWHP? probably not.
The current car that Paolo is building is having EGT sensors on both manifolds which should hopefully tell more about what the safe limits are.
Thanks for the reply. If I'm not mistaken, the '05's and up have knock sensors. Would these still work with a Twin Turbo setup and would they prevent detonation? Also, any thoughts on the fuel system capacity and if the boost a pump is adequate?
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Paxton cars run 600 RWHP on stock internals with higher IATs. A Paxton car with 600 RWHP is most likely doing 80-100 RWHP work into the blower. I don't see any reason why a turbo car couldn't produce 700-750 without problem. The CPE system can also be had with water meth which would allow you to run even a little more timing/boost ect. and make nearer to 800 RWHP whilst keeping combustion temperatures similar to lower levels (ie less chance for detonation). The powdered rods are strong enough to hold the power as long as there is NO detonation...none...nada. Would I prefer to build the engine? Yes. Is it absolutely necessary to make 700+ RWHP? probably not.
The current car that Paolo is building is having EGT sensors on both manifolds which should hopefully tell more about what the safe limits are.
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