What is the price and can they be installed without lowering the car?
Why buy them? Sure you can, but why would you want coilovers if you didn't plan on lowering the car. Seems like a good waste of money. If you answer track, look at a set of Motons or Penske's. KW's are good for lowering...that is about it. Not a great track shock.
Why buy them? Sure you can, but why would you want coilovers if you didn't plan on lowering the car. Seems like a good waste of money. If you answer track, look at a set of Motons or Penske's. KW's are good for lowering...that is about it. Not a great track shock.
Why bother looking at KW's at all, you can buy a full set of Penske's for $3350. The Penske's are a MUCH better shock in every aspect then the KW.
Are Penske and motons at about the same level of quality and is their purpose solely for lowering or do they provide better shock action, adjustable compression/rebound etc? I do not want to lower the car but am interested if they provide better suspension and can be set to keep the car at the original ride height. From what SRT engineers have said, the stock shocks are set for run flat tires and should not be used with non run flats. I am wondering if a switch to Penske or motons would provide the adjustability which would compliment a switch in tires to non run flats.
Are Penske and motons at about the same level of quality and is their purpose solely for lowering or do they provide better shock action, adjustable compression/rebound etc? I do not want to lower the car but am interested if they provide better suspension and can be set to keep the car at the original ride height. From what SRT engineers have said, the stock shocks are set for run flat tires and should not be used with non run flats. I am wondering if a switch to Penske or motons would provide the adjustability which would compliment a switch in tires to non run flats.
For someone who wants to lower their car and have a better overall driving feel with an occassional trip to the track, then the KW's are the best choice.
For the guy who road races a lot and knows how to adjust his shocks, choose and change spring rates, then the Penskes or Motons would be the way to go.
So how would the Penske's compare with the Moton's and who has them for $3350. $4k seems to be the going price for Moton's.
It all depends on who builds and specs out the Penske's, as they are all custom built for each order. They do not have an off-the-shelf valving spec, someone needs to specify what shim pack to use.
Moton offers the Club sport as an off-the-shelf package. I have rebuilt both Penske and Moton shocks, they are very close internally, however I do like the Penske piston design better. The Penske 8700 series is also a very nice shock, they are around $1000 more per set.
PM me if you want to know where to get them at $3350.
It all depends on who builds and specs out the Penske's, as they are all custom built for each order. They do not have an off-the-shelf valving spec, someone needs to specify what shim pack to use.
Moton offers the Club sport as an off-the-shelf package. I have rebuilt both Penske and Moton shocks, they are very close internally, however I do like the Penske piston design better. The Penske 8700 series is also a very nice shock, they are around $1000 more per set.
PM me if you want to know where to get them at $3350.
AT 3350 DOES THE PENSKE KIT COMPLETE WITH SPRINGS, HELPER SPRINGS TO HOLD THE SPRINGS IN PLACE AND SPANNER WRENCH TO ADJUST RIDE HEIGHT? ITS BEEN A WHILE SINCE I HAVE USED THE PENSKE PRODUCTS - THEY ARE VERY GOOD QUALITY BUT I HAD TO GET ALL THE OTHER ITEMS ON MY OWN WHICH WAS A REAL HASSLE.
THE KW KIT ALL COMES COMPLETE IN THE BOX AND NO BS. THE TRACK RAT USUALLY DOESNT MIND SCROUNGING ALL HIS PARTS AS HE WANTS HIS OWN SPRING RATES, ETC. BUT FOR THE AVERAGE VIPER OWNER WHO WANTS TO LOWER HIS CAR AND HAVE AN IMPROVED RIDE, THE PENSKES / MOTONS ARE TOO MUCH OF A HASSLE IN MY OPINION NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT THEY COST MORE MONEY.
AT 3350 DOES THE PENSKE KIT COMPLETE WITH SPRINGS, HELPER SPRINGS TO HOLD THE SPRINGS IN PLACE AND SPANNER WRENCH TO ADJUST RIDE HEIGHT? ITS BEEN A WHILE SINCE I HAVE USED THE PENSKE PRODUCTS - THEY ARE VERY GOOD QUALITY BUT I HAD TO GET ALL THE OTHER ITEMS ON MY OWN WHICH WAS A REAL HASSLE.
THE KW KIT ALL COMES COMPLETE IN THE BOX AND NO BS. THE TRACK RAT USUALLY DOESNT MIND SCROUNGING ALL HIS PARTS AS HE WANTS HIS OWN SPRING RATES, ETC. BUT FOR THE AVERAGE VIPER OWNER WHO WANTS TO LOWER HIS CAR AND HAVE AN IMPROVED RIDE, THE PENSKES / MOTONS ARE TOO MUCH OF A HASSLE IN MY OPINION NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT THEY COST MORE MONEY.
Hey John, I don't want to interfere with your thread, but that price is with Hyercoil springs, ready to bolt on.