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Old March 25th, 2007, 04:53 PM   #1
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Rev limiter question

I normally don't street race, but I suppose something was in the air today and I felt like spanking the modded import car next to me at the stop light that had been riding my ass for the last few minutes. I stopped paying attention to my shifting for a split sec and I hit the rev limiter in 1st gear. It kind of surprised me since I'd never hit it before. The engine lost power for a sec and then I shifted into 2nd.

Can the engine be damaged by this?
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As long as there are no holes in the oil pan..... Your OK

As you might have had if not for the Rev "limiter"
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Old March 25th, 2007, 05:28 PM   #3
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short answer is yes. long answer is it depends. keeping the revs down is the key to a V10's long life
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Old March 25th, 2007, 06:15 PM   #4
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short answer is yes. long answer is it depends. keeping the revs down is the key to a V10's long life
Thanks. Believe me. I've learned my lesson. I've only had my car for 3 months, so I guess it was bound to happen sometime. Lesson learned.

Would you mind elaborating on "it depends"? I've heard that it's worse to downshift and hit the rev-limiter than to hit it while accelerating.
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I've heard that it's worse to downshift and hit the rev-limiter than to hit it while accelerating.
Correct.

Like spray said, I wouldn't worry about one time though.

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Old March 26th, 2007, 02:01 PM   #7
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You have no worries. I've been autocrossing my car and sometimes I hit the rev limiter 3-5 times on the course depending on the layout.
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It depends on your timming chain. some stok chains have too much slack in them and will snap. It is rare in vipers but it does happen.

Also, because you on bumped it once and not 30 times in a row...you are most likely in the clear.

Back when my car was stock I did it and nothing happened.

You will know if you hurt something. it will run rough(bent pushrod, valve ect.) Or it will not run at all(timing chain, oil pump, cam bolt, locked motor ect)
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I think every one of us has bounced it off the limiter at one time or another, it is there for your protection.

Keep driving and have fun.
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I think every one of us has bounced it off the limiter at one time or another, it is there for your protection.

Keep driving and have fun.
Wait until you go to shift quick to 3rd and end up back in 1st!
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Wait until you go to shift quick to 3rd and end up back in 1st!
I would have to change my answer at that point, in that case you may have damaged your engine (but the odds are still in your favor).

Luckily I have not run into that problem as of yet...
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Can the engine be damaged by this?
with the durability testing that new engines go through I would have to say no. You could probably drive to work bouncing off the rev limiter the entire time and be fine.......now go try and see if I'm right.
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Come on guys - your telling me these motors "might" be damaged by hitting the rev limiter but that your "probably" ok if you only did it a few times? I don't know alot about the rev limiters on these cars bit aren't they a soft limiter like a MSD? If not they ought to be. Help me out here. I have SB Chevys and BB Fords I bounce of the MSD box all the time and have never had any damage. Course I built these motors and run the limiter 500 RPM below the ratings.
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The real question is did you beat the rice burner!!!!!!!!
Most of them. I went to a school of 36 people on Saturday and at they end of the day they set up a course and we ran. First and Second place were Evos at 37.1 and 37.5. I ran third at 37.8. One of the instructors ran my car to a 35.5. So I have a lot of work to do. This is on street tires and stock alignment.

Running autocross will give you a whole new outlook on imports.
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The real question is did you beat the rice burner!!!!!!!!

It was no contest. He was in my rear view mirror from the time we left the stoplight, at least until I got to 3rd gear and I let up off the gas. When I let off the gas, he whizzed by me. He kept accelerating for another block or two ahead of me after I slowed down. It was kind of funny that he kept going, but I was more concerned at that moment about whether or not I'd damaged my engine when I hit the rev limiter. It's good to read here that I probably didn't.

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Wait until you go to shift quick to 3rd and end up back in 1st!
That would mechanically override the rev limiter by having the vehicle speed increase the engine speed, which can damage your motor.
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with the durability testing that new engines go through I would have to say no. You could probably drive to work bouncing off the rev limiter the entire time and be fine.......now go try and see if I'm right.
Hmm...and how much will a new engine cost me after my test?
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Would you mind elaborating on "it depends"? I've heard that it's worse to downshift and hit the rev-limiter than to hit it while accelerating.
with a stock valve train @ high revs your valves will float, aka: not be in the location that is intended at a certain crank position. this can cause a valve to meet up with a piston and bend. (chance comes in here, not guaranteed to float - engine heat, spring tolerance, rocker tolerance, push rod tolerance, etc come into play)

the rev limiter works while accelerating, but not decelerating. if you downshift there is no limiter, keep that in mind when rowing the gears. Get a good ratchety shifter so you know without a doubt what gear your in, (and dont miss!).

the v10 is a large displacement motor & is designed for low rpm TQ. the stock motor has pore oiling even at low rpms. at high rpms its even worse. in stock form keeping the revs below 5500 will keep the life up. Get yourself a shift light & set it to 5400. Raptor Shift Light

If you plan to keep racing - modify your oil pan with trap doors, or buy a comp coupe oil pan /w pickup. this keeps the oil near the pickup instead of jammed to the back/sides of the pan. during your 1st rebuild you can modify the crank to help oiling. 1000$ will get you an accusump setup that will keep your oil pressure up during dips that would normally cause extreme wear.
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