What the fuck are you talking about? In recent GT road racing, the vette has struggled to crack into the top 5 while there are usually 3 Vipers inside the top 5. Get off your knees and accept Viper dominance. I will be the first to admit that the world needs bitches, but we dominant males would truly prefer if you would just shut up, lie down and take it balls deep like nature intended.
Well you do not dissappoint. You truly are as fucking stupid as you sound. Congrats on that by the way. So when viper nation gets destroyed by a C5 405 HP vette at the runoffs where were the Vipers?? When Corvette has taken the last 7 out of 7 ALMS Championships where the fuck are the vipers?? You know that overweight piece of shit pig of a car you cock suckers call a Viper cant touch the corvette at Nuremburg. You cant come to grips with it so you try to divert it to drag racing where most of you homo's accel. In drag racing money buys fast times. In road racing it takes a great driver and a great car to achieve excellence. Based on the virtue that most of you ass holes couldent drive your way out of a wet paper bag with a hole in the bottom tells me that having that piece of shit car is just going to make you slower. In the racing world Sadistic your the one taking it in the ass dry MOTHERFUCKER! Dominant and Viper shouldent be used in the same sentence. Before your start blowing out retarded generic terms take the strap on out of your ass and realize that you are the racing worlds bitch!
Last edited by Auto_x_Al : January 15th, 2007 at 10:24 PM.
I am really going to cut out after this but you guys have all made one thing abundantly clear and that is the Viper really is a great car. The problem lies with the dumbasses that own them. Hope to see you on track cause if I do your FUCKED!
Can one of the Admin's please kill my profile so you all know I'm done with this.
Exactly my point. You have to heavily mod your car to run with or beat my stock car. That my friend is SAD!!..
What kind of nerdboy talks about "stock vs. stock"? When I raced motocross for years, nobody cared about how the bikes were out of the showroom. The smart riders bought the one which had the most potential. Only a nerd would show up at the races with a stock machine! LMAO! Try to catch my twin turbo Viper, Fagi. You can't? Now that's a shame. I think you better just assume the rightful position of the female; ass up, head down.
Auto x Al, I will not even bother to argue your verbose nonsense. Your anger is obviously the product of the recipiency of deep anal balling. Being mounted by another man has left you in a slew of regret, self hatred and corvette purchasing. God bless you, you poor bastard.
A notorious homosexual nerd like yourself would panic in a race, pressing the clutch when intending to press the gas peddle, slamming the brake when attempting to press in the clutch, etc. Effeminates like yourself would be lucky to do a 14 second 1/4 mile in a strongly tuned Z06.
When you are ready to snap out of la la land and stop calling me your own nickname, watch this video of my bone stock car stomping on the Viper by over a full second at the drag strip. Sadly enough, this was with me taking it easy on the car after hearing some horror stories about the half shafts breaking.
I am really going to cut out after this but you guys have all made one thing abundantly clear and that is the Viper really is a great car. The problem lies with the dumbasses that own them. Hope to see you on track cause if I do your FUCKED!
Can one of the Admin's please kill my profile so you all know I'm done with this.
Yup, I am out too. Saddledick and dickferno, you guys have fun jerking one another off, and remember, mod them Vipers up before you get your asses handed to you by STOCK Vets. Ahhh, sooo sucks to be you!! Peace.
What kind of nerdboy talks about "stock vs. stock"? When I raced motocross for years, nobody cared about how the bikes were out of the showroom. The smart riders bought the one which had the most potential. Only a nerd would show up at the races with a stock machine! LMAO! Try to catch my twin turbo Viper, Fagi. You can't? Now that's a shame. I think you better just assume the rightful position of the female; ass up, head down.
Auto x Al, I will not even bother to argue your verbose nonsense. Your anger is obviously the product of the recipiency of deep anal balling. Being mounted by another man has left you in a slew of regret, self hatred and corvette purchasing. God bless you, you poor bastard.
You could have 10 turbo's and it's not gonna stop me from driving around your sorry ass! As for your anal affliction I am sure you and your boyfriend will live happily ever after.
When you are ready to snap out of la la land and stop calling me your own nickname, watch this video of my bone stock car stomping on the Viper by over a full second at the drag strip. Sadly enough, this was with me taking it easy on the car after hearing some horror stories about the half shafts breaking.
Wow, you beat a gen 1. Wooptie Fucking Do.
Funny that you say you were "taking it easy on the car". I don't think powershifting 1-2 and 2-3 is "taking it easy".
Well you do not dissappoint. You truly are as fucking stupid as you sound. Congrats on that by the way. So when viper nation gets destroyed by a C5 405 HP vette at the runoffs where were the Vipers?? When Corvette has taken the last 7 out of 7 ALMS Championships where the fuck are the vipers?? You know that overweight piece of shit pig of a car you cock suckers call a Viper cant touch the corvette at Nuremburg. You cant come to grips with it so you try to divert it to drag racing where most of you homo's accel. In drag racing money buys fast times. In road racing it takes a great driver and a great car to achieve excellence. Based on the virtue that most of you ass holes couldent drive your way out of a wet paper bag with a hole in the bottom tells me that having that piece of shit car is just going to make you slower. In the racing world Sadistic your the one taking it in the ass dry MOTHERFUCKER! Dominant and Viper shouldent be used in the same sentence. Before your start blowing out retarded generic terms take the strap on out of your ass and realize that you are the racing worlds bitch!
Al, I believe your beef is w. Sadistic, and not with the other Viper owners on this board. Sadistic attempts to push everyone's button, hasn't shared anything of value since my joining this board, and appears to be fixated more on discussing homosexuals than on Viper mods.
You appear to be very knowledgeable on the sport, and have a good appreciation of cars. A fellow Vette owner, I admire the Viper's performance, and will be purchasing an '08 (keeping it NA). As a factory turn key car and a weekend track warrior, the Viper is a worthy competitor that has my respect. While I'm keeping my C5 Vette (Stroked C5R 427 F1R, 900+ hp) and my stripped track-only '91 Mustang, I also can't wait to own my first Dodge.
You can make anything fast, but, "What would you rather be seen in?" Just admit it that Corvette's are fast, looks good and call it a day.
Fast, perhaps, but you can't say they are good looking. Everytime I see one in a parking lot I spend a few minutes walking around them, marvelling at just how fucking ugly they are. I'm surprised that Lutz let the same hacks that invented body clading and every malformed GM product made the last 35 years work on an otherwise exceptional car.
Everytime I see one in a parking lot I spend a few minutes walking around them, marvelling at just how fucking ugly they are.
And everyone thinks their baby is the cutest. My C5 coupe is lowered, 6-pot Alcons look through polished forged HRE's, w. 295mm front & 345mm rear rubber. I see a rounded lowered nose that looks similar to an old Superbird's, and a nice big butt (I like my women w. a little meat on their thighs/butt) - a package that delivers a highly functional CD of .28. With a typical CD of .35 for most cars, I see beauty in the C5's engineering/design.
Caseyse, I appreciate your remarks. You have alot of information and seem to have your head on straight, most of us are glad that you are here. As for your comments, I believe the same way. I happen to love the way that the Vette looks, especially the C6 design. Alot of the members here actually own them. One in particular took his to Lingenfelter and getting alittle 403 stroker, Magnacharger, mini-tubs..... also owns a 04 SRT. Ask which one is his favorite, he can't tell you because he likes them both.
Oh and your comment Sadistic, "What kind of nerdboy talks about "stock vs. stock", I guess that you didn't read what this thread was about. Last time that I checked, they were talking about a STOCK Z06 vs. a STOCK 08 Viper. Oh, but we are nerds. Sorry but people like The Great One, Caseyse..... are NOT nerds, FAR from it. And Please stop with your childs play name calling because it gets old afterwhile. How old are you?? Act your age.. thanks!
To sum it up, I think that BOTH cars are great. Both have alot of potential in them and both perform great at the track and on the street. Don't bash someone because they like a car that you don't care for, it's not a good move.
Lets put things in perspective. These dweebs came to a Viper forum and completely bashed the car. I own a Viper and also own 2 vettes. Am I partial? Probably so, because the Viper has a lot more character, beauty and quality. Caseye's statement that I have not contributed anything is pure nonsense. What about when I won the bid on a VOI9 Viper for a member here at an extremely low price? I think I represent a lot of Viper owners here who don't take kindly to some nerds roaming over here, bashing Vipers. As far as the subject goes, it is obvious that the '08 Viper will be faster than the Z06. It is not even arguable.
Al, I believe your beef is w. Sadistic, and not with the other Viper owners on this board. Sadistic attempts to push everyone's button, hasn't shared anything of value since my joining this board, and appears to be fixated more on discussing homosexuals than on Viper mods.
You appear to be very knowledgeable on the sport, and have a good appreciation of cars. A fellow Vette owner, I admire the Viper's performance, and will be purchasing an '08 (keeping it NA). As a factory turn key car and a weekend track warrior, the Viper is a worthy competitor that has my respect. While I'm keeping my C5 Vette (Stroked C5R 427 F1R, 900+ hp) and my stripped track-only '91 Mustang, I also can't wait to own my first Dodge.
Agreed. The Viper is a fast car. Never denied that. I just wish we had more of them on that tracks out here. It may beat the C6 Z06. I will say that. After that all bets are off and I will leave it there. I am sure that sadistic could be better served on some Alternative Lifestyle forum. It is nice to see some objective owners vette or viper.
Sadistic, I don't disagree with you. I understand exactly where you are coming from so don't feel like I am taking you down because I am not. I do believe that you have contributed to this forum. I think what caseyse was saying is the way you come across with your points is not always the best. Use alittle more tact, and you are fine.
I hate it whenever people bash ANY car not just the Vette or Viper and so on. Whenever people come on here to bash the Viper, they are mistaken. I guess they don't like the fact of having a 8.3l V10. Guess they don't like the fact that it has one of the best braking systems available on the market today. Or even the fact of the 13inch tires in the rear being stock, when others have to spend money to do a mini-tub kit just to fit that size of tire. I don't think that they were saying that the Viper sucks, just that it is not the dominant car. The Vette was design to be a all out "Street Race Car", raw power and raw performance. Yet the Viper was created to appeal more towards higher class people who wanted a sleek exotic look and design, with the same power and performance. They are in 2 different classes if what I feel and can't compare them.
There was a thread in the garage forum, talking about a F430 vs. Z06. How many members that posted said they would take the Z over the Ferrari? Not many even though the Z outperforms the 430. That just comes to show me that there is a car out there for everyone. There is a car for everyone's style and needs. For us, we love the jaw dropping appeal that the Viper gets. The performance is right up there with the Vette, but that's not Dodge's goal. If it was there goal, GM would out do us every single year by creating the "Blue Devil" with 650hp, what would come next?? A 700hp "Blue Ray"? Just appreciate what the Vette was created for, and most of all appreciate what the Viper is and was created for. Thousands of hours were put into the design of these cars so think about that next time. Who cares about who's car is better or faster, but which one do you feel better in? My vote is the Viper. Others might be a 350z, little honda Accord or even a Acura RSX is their dream car. Let them have it and just appreciate what cars are and what they were made for. Thanks!
At this point it looks like 430-450 and 550 respectively.
This what people should be considering, whether the '08 Viper will outperform the '08 Z06. The magazines are not going to compare the 500 hp version Z06 to the new Viper if the '08 Z06 gets a horse power increase. Wondering if the new Viper will beat the current Z06 is a no brainier simply because Dodge could constantly measure their gains against the actual car. Contrarily, this strategy was most likely used by GM in assuring their Z06 would in fact beat the current Viper.
If we consider these variables then guessing who will win in '08 may not be that easy to call. We should keep in mind that we are comparing two different motors. When Viper owners arrogantly say "look out Z owners, our newly designed 8.4 liter V-10 is going to beat you" it looks pathetic. It's like a Corvette owner telling a naturally aspirated V-6 competitor that our newly revised larger V-8 is going to beat you! That isn't something to brag about.
It should be embarrassing to Dodge that this debate is even happening...hoping that a large V-10 will stay ahead of a smaller V-8 is shameful. I can't believe this is an issue because it shouldn't be. Dodge should do what is has to do to lead by a considerable margin. If this means Dodge must supercharge their engines to maintain a large gap then they should do so. Lets not forget that the naturally aspirated 488 cubic inch V-10 Viper made less horsepower than a naturally aspirated 350 cubic inch V-8 Corvette ZR-1 for three years (93-95) in a row.
In drag racing money buys fast times. In road racing it takes a great driver and a great car to achieve excellence. Based on the virtue that most of you ass holes couldent drive your way out of a wet paper bag with a hole in the bottom tells me that having that piece of shit car is just going to make you slower. In the racing world Sadistic your the one taking it in the ass dry MOTHERFUCKER! Dominant and Viper shouldent be used in the same sentence. Before your start blowing out retarded generic terms take the strap on out of your ass and realize that you are the racing worlds bitch!
