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Old December 28th, 2006, 04:02 PM   #61
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Sounds like they will have a nice package. I think it would be very wise for them to partner with Paxton and have them adapt their kit. Would take maybe a month to make a new kit and just have it offered as a dealer option much like Woodhouse does it now. Instant deletion of Corvette SS threat with nearly existing hardware!
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Sounds like they will have a nice package. I think it would be very wise for them to partner with Paxton and have them adapt their kit. Would take maybe a month to make a new kit and just have it offered as a dealer option much like Woodhouse does it now. Instant deletion of Corvette SS threat with nearly existing hardware!
With the CR coming up to 10.2 and cast pistons (but rumored forged rods), I don't know how SC friendly this new motor will be. Guess we'll find out in six months or so.
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With the CR coming up to 10.2 and cast pistons (but rumored forged rods), I don't know how SC friendly this new motor will be. Guess we'll find out in six months or so.
I figured they could probably still run 4-5 pounds and make 700-725 HP similar to what they make now-- which would still get the job done.
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I figured they could probably still run 4-5 pounds and make 700-725 HP similar to what they make now-- which would still get the job done.
But that's the entire issue. You just said it "similar to what they make now."

What reason is there to buy the new car? With wheels headers, exhaust and flywheel you have matched the dodge weight savings and probably the performance. Add heads and cam and you have good ole DC beat.

It's going to be a great time to pick up a cheap gen III.
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It's going to be a great time to pick up a cheap gen III.
Yup, the fox body mustang of the Viper world. Coming soon to a drag strip or road course near you.
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With the CR coming up to 10.2 and cast pistons (but rumored forged rods), I don't know how SC friendly this new motor will be. Guess we'll find out in six months or so.

The edmunds article...


"Strength was added with forged powder-metal connecting rods and pistons with larger-diameter floating pins"
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But that's the entire issue. You just said it "similar to what they make now."

What reason is there to buy the new car? With wheels headers, exhaust and flywheel you have matched the dodge weight savings and probably the performance. Add heads and cam and you have good ole DC beat.

It's going to be a great time to pick up a cheap gen III.
Didn't say it wasn't easy to do the same feat with a Gen III. However, I will say that the VVT thing could be very promising and possibly make more than 5 Ibs possible!
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The edmunds article...


"Strength was added with forged powder-metal connecting rods and pistons with larger-diameter floating pins"
I can't tell from the way that sentence is written whether or not the pistons are forged. If they are, good for DC---just pop the heads, enlarge the combustion chamber a bit to drop the CR and you've got a decent FI base.
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not that it makes you guys feel any better about it; but my engine stock had 10.2:1 compression, the smallest forged rods you could imagine, and cheap ass cast pistons with ring lands so small you could crack them off with a flick of your finger. i put 9 psi of boost into it (TT) anyway and made precisely double stock rwhp and it never broke
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Yup, the fox body mustang of the Viper world. Coming soon to a drag strip or road course near you.


I was thinking more along the lines of the early 70's corvette, but it's pretty much the same thing.

I'm just figuring that 2011 will be about the time my warranty runs out and about the time they either ditch the Viper for good or come out with something that will get my panties all wet and sloppy.



How fucking hard would it have been to change the body a little bit more. Make the car look a little angrier, a little more outlandish. Do something daring that 90% of the population will wonder about and that last 10% will have wet dreams over.
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Some good info incase someone missed it. ...."Strength was added with forged powder-metal connecting rods and pistons with larger-diameter floating pins. The compression ratio goes up from 9.2:1 to 10.2:1 and maximum engine speed rises from 6,000 rpm to 6,250. A newly designed intake allows for 20 percent more airflow. New headers improve exhaust flow and each cylinder now gets its own coil pack. Chrysler chose not to list estimated fuel economy figures...."
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