Does anyout out there have any concrete information as to whether the next Viper will be able to pull these 127-128 trap speeds?
If they don't step it up, I don't see how the car can survive with the Z, Ford GT and now even the Shelby Cobras ( even with their weight ) out there.
Will be a shame if not IMO.
If you are talking 127-128 trap speeds that ranger just pulled off you have to remember that...
This was done with a WAY above average driver...
Killer DA -850!!!
And a good hooking track>
The best times real world times i have saw for a gen three had it trapping 123mph. With a driver like ranger, and the same track conditoins i bet a gen three could have hit atleast 125 in the 1/4.
If you are talking 127-128 trap speeds that ranger just pulled off you have to remember that...
This was done with a WAY above average driver...
Killer DA -850!!!
And a good hooking track>
The best times real world times i have saw for a gen three had it trapping 123mph. With a driver like ranger, and the same track conditoins i bet a gen three could have hit atleast 125 in the 1/4.
Assuming my friend's experiences at Dodge were anything like what will be brought out, I don't think you have to worry about racing anything short of a Bugatti, Zonda, Koeniggsegg, and maybe an Enzo .
Assuming my friend's experiences at Dodge were anything like what will be brought out, I don't think you have to worry about racing anything short of a Bugatti, Zonda, Koeniggsegg, and maybe an Enzo .
I SURE HOPE SO!! If the rumors are true, and DC is comming out swinging with th 08 viper, It had better be trapping 3-4 mph faster than the zo6 to soundly say it is on top again
He worked (AND I WILL SPELL THIS OUT FOR THE HATERS) doing engine management programming for the VM diesels that they use in London Taxi cabs and some of the new European Jeeps. In fact, we have one the diesels in our testing lab here at school and they let him borrow a Dodge Nitro concept car for the first week of school, which was kinda nice. Anyway, the SRT engine dynos that they did work on the new Viper engines with were in the same building as the VM diesels. He obviously bumped into the engineers from time to time and began to ask questions. All of the engines (something like 5 or 6) that were being tested made over 650 HP. They all used different intake designs, consequently, they made different power. As he became more friendly with the engineers, they told him more details, pretty much confirming an 8.4L V-10. Towards the end of his internship, he got a ride in one of the test mules. They had him up to 194 MPH in fifth gear at a reported half to 3/4 throttle. He reports that the engines did sound different than the standard V-10 in a good way (more Norm's Lingenfelter Viper-like) and that back to back rides with stock Vipers and Z06s showed the new car to be in a whole other league of performance. That is all I remember when I asked him about it 3 or 4 weeks ago.
He worked (AND I WILL SPELL THIS OUT FOR THE HATERS) doing engine management programming for the VM diesels that they use in London Taxi cabs and some of the new European Jeeps. In fact, we have one the diesels in our testing lab here at school and they let him borrow a Dodge Nitro concept car for the first week of school, which was kinda nice. Anyway, the SRT engine dynos that they did work on the new Viper engines with were in the same building as the VM diesels. He obviously bumped into the engineers from time to time and began to ask questions. All of the engines (something like 5 or 6) that were being tested made over 650 HP. They all used different intake designs, consequently, they made different power. As he became more friendly with the engineers, they told him more details, pretty much confirming an 8.4L V-10. Towards the end of his internship, he got a ride in one of the test mules. They had him up to 194 MPH in fifth gear at a reported half to 3/4 throttle. He reports that the engines did sound different than the standard V-10 in a good way (more Norm's Lingenfelter Viper-like) and that back to back rides with stock Vipers and Z06s showed the new car to be in a whole other league of performance. That is all I remember when I asked him about it 3 or 4 weeks ago.
I hope this is all true info. It would be great to put the Viper back on top. How about they put a REAL rollbar in the new Viper?
When the GEN I/II was in its prime it was the fastest production car in the world from 60-160mph
There is no way the new viper will ever have that status and the ability to beat mostly anythnig on the road...and if it did..definitely not at the price point it's at now.
The next generation subaru STI is going to have 400+hp and torque..and with the AWD will rocket to 60 in 3.6-3.7 seconds for low 30s, and most drivers could see those same times...whereas launching a viper to stick and go takes A LOT more skill....[/QUOTE
Fastest productoin car from 60-160???
The mclaren f1 was in produtoin then and i dought the gts would beat it from 60-160
If you are talking 127-128 trap speeds that ranger just pulled off you have to remember that...
This was done with a WAY above average driver...
Killer DA -850!!!
And a good hooking track>
The best times real world times i have saw for a gen three had it trapping 123mph. With a driver like ranger, and the same track conditoins i bet a gen three could have hit atleast 125 in the 1/4.
Dang, that has me feeling pretty good about my best traps speeds (123-125 mph) on stock rubber and thru the OEM exhaust on my '96.
A friend of mine got some info on the new viper as well, and got to see CAD drawings of it. He was told of 600plus hp, but they were having BIG problems getting the car to hook.
As for the STI claims of 0-60, I'm sure they will turn on some launch control, and stop you from doing a serious AWD launch. Much like the Mitsu.
Do you have any CAD drawings to substantiate that claim?
I happen to have a CAD (cheese applicating device) , rather large at that, and would be happy to send some CAD drawings to anyone interested. It applies this rich cheese at about 125 FPS, which should be faster than the CAD drawings show the new SRT to be. I also have plenty of videos for those who are interested.
