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Old August 21st, 2003, 02:07 PM   #21
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I DIDN'T DO A SPEED RUN... :angel:
but if I HAD done one, it would have been on I10 between the cowan lorraine exit westbound to the Hwy 498 exit. Concrete median wall with vision for about 2 miles. Perfect if it is clear of traffic. Come and we'll run it after the drag. I'll be anxious for the drag on any wednesday/saturday night. Come to cruisin the coast which a great event in october...cool, evening cruises, MUCHO CARS AND PEOPLE. It's almost ridiculous.

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Old August 21st, 2003, 03:43 PM   #22
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autocross is a good one to learn.
Except with AX you rarely reach highway speeds and NEVER sustain highway speeds. Maneuvering around, or hitting a deer or tree at 30mph isn't going to rack you like at 70mph. But agreed, AX is still better than no experience and much more affordable.

Isn't it ironic how society (lawyers, insurance, government, etc.) makes it so difficult to build a track yet puts soooo much emphasis on auto safety?

I don't mean for this thread to imply that these unfortunate guys weren't good drivers.
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Old August 21st, 2003, 04:47 PM   #23
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I understand what you are saying. I recommended AX for 2 reasons, first, I do it all the time, second, it saved my ass in a vette when I was avoiding a full sheet of plywood going through the air straight at me. My dumbass left off the gas and swearved at 70 mph......as you can imagine, it put me into a slide going for the wall, so I reacted by putting my foot in the throttle and driving out of it. I guess the first mistake was driving a vette [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

I frequently design tracks here in New Orleans that hit speeds of 70-80 mph. I am kinda playing with the rules to do it, but it works. I hate to hear stories about this because people think they can drive aournd the problem. I have been puonding it into my wifes head that if she has a wild pig (a lot down here in the swamp) run out in front of her that she is to hit the gas and drive straight. Hitting the brakes hard will just make it go into the windshield. It will destroy the car, but it is better then a pig on the front seat and she has a better chance of not getting hurt. The other option is to head into the swamp....not a good idea with the gators.

With all that being said, my thoughts are with the family. Whether the guy was a good driver or not, he still is still alive. Sadly, his partner isn't and that is the worst part of it all.

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Old August 21st, 2003, 04:51 PM   #24
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Sad tale , but deer can kill also!!
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Old August 21st, 2003, 04:55 PM   #25
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Old August 21st, 2003, 06:12 PM   #26
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I reme,ber see that and thought of it when i was typing. The driver actually did not die. If you have the rest of the pictures, he is walking around the car. That one is bad though!!!
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Old August 21st, 2003, 08:32 PM   #27
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I found out that neither person in the Viper owned it. The driver brought along his best friend to go for a test drive in a Viper for sale. It was the driver's very first time driving a Viper.
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Old August 21st, 2003, 08:46 PM   #28
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It's a terrible thing when life is lost. The effect on family and friends is devastating.
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Old August 21st, 2003, 09:58 PM   #29
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I found out that neither person in the Viper owned it. The driver brought along his best friend to go for a test drive in a Viper for sale. It was the driver's very first time driving a Viper.
I wonder...maybe...just a thought....if the attorney representing the driver made up the story about the deer to classify this an accident and not something else.



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Old August 21st, 2003, 10:09 PM   #30
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We have lots of deer near where I live and they are out almost all the time, but mostly in early mornings and evenings. That area has lots of deer - I have seen many deer crossing the same road many times.

Ohio is one of the few states in the eastern half of the U.S. where there have not been sightings of mountain lions. The overpopulation of deer and their western habitats being shrunk by "progress" has forced many mountain lions into almost every eastern state, where they were native to until 1880. Delaware even has a breeding population of mountain lions.
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We have lots of deer near where I live and they are out almost all the time, but mostly in early mornings and evenings. That area has lots of deer - I have seen many deer crossing the same road many times.

Ohio is one of the few states east of the Mississippi River where there have not been sightings of mountain lions. The overpopulation of deer and their western habitats being shrunk by "progress" has forced many mountain lions into almost every eastern state, where they were native to until 1880. Delaware even has a breeding population of mountain lions.
I totaled my truck just a few years ago hitting a full sized buck at about 55 MPH head on near my old home. It pushed the engine back about 12 inches and destroyed the cab of the truck. I was unhurt but very sore for about a week.

I see them all the time in the spring and late fall. It scares the crap out of me every time.
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Old August 21st, 2003, 10:22 PM   #32
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Old August 24th, 2003, 11:35 AM   #33
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08-23-2003

Wabash, Indiana Man Reports Seeing Cougar

BY KRISTA PRIMROSE, Times-Union Staff Writer

Another cougar sighting has been reported. A Wabash County man reported the animal ran out in front of him on CR 750W approximately two weeks ago.

To help solve this mystery, Karen Hoag, of Black Pine Animal Park, Albion, has offered her expertise if anyone can locate and preserve a cougar paw print. To preserve the print, Hoag says to cover it with a cereal bowl, protecting it from wind and rain, and then call her at 260-636-7383. She said she will be happy to come and confirm or deny the print.

As a side note, Hoag said not to fear for the life of your family dog. Cougars generally prefer to eat deer, though when starving or sick, they will sometimes attack a confined animal.

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Old August 24th, 2003, 12:22 PM   #34
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We have lots of deer near where I live and they are out almost all the time, but mostly in early mornings and evenings. That area has lots of deer - I have seen many deer crossing the same road many times.

Ohio is one of the few states in the eastern half of the U.S. where there have not been sightings of mountain lions. The overpopulation of deer and their western habitats being shrunk by "progress" has forced many mountain lions into almost every eastern state, where they were native to until 1880. Delaware even has a breeding population of mountain lions.
I grew up on a farm near the Mississippi River in west central Wisconsin. Anyways, about 15 years ago some of the neighbors started spotting a mountain lion in the area. These were reputable people, not kooks. I know the people very well and they know what they saw. My high school science teacher lived a few miles away and he saw one too. Rumor had it some guy was transporting one illegally and he let it loose when he knew the DNR was on to him.

I never saw it but I heard it one night. I was out bow hunting during my senior year of high school and was used to seeing maybe 10 deer come out of one particular spot every night for the past few weeks. Then this particular night no deer come out. I thought it was kind of odd. So I wait until there is absolutely no light left. Then I hear this blood curdling type of scream coming from about 200 yards away. I have heard this scream before while watching a TV show about mountain lions. At first I just freeze. Then I climb out of the tree and walk slowly to the house which is maybe 1/2 mile away. Then I hear the scream again and by now I am on a dead run for the house. I could have won the Olympic 400 yard dash. Haaaaaaaa.

No one saw one again for several years until last year. The deer hunting has been terrible in the area, not nearly as many deer as we normally see. Then this past fall my old neighbor is driving by my mom and dad's house and about 200 yards from their house my neighbor sees 2 mountain lions playing around in the field. I guess now I know where all the deer went.
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Old August 25th, 2003, 03:25 AM   #35
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I never saw it but I heard it one night. I was out bow hunting during my senior year of high school and was used to seeing maybe 10 deer come out of one particular spot every night for the past few weeks. Then this particular night no deer come out. I thought it was kind of odd. So I wait until there is absolutely no light left. Then I hear this blood curdling type of scream coming from about 200 yards away. I have heard this scream before while watching a TV show about mountain lions. At first I just freeze. Then I climb out of the tree and walk slowly to the house which is maybe 1/2 mile away. Then I hear the scream again and by now I am on a dead run for the house. I could have won the Olympic 400 yard dash. Haaaaaaaa.
holly shit!

Do they climb trees? Wasn't it safer to stay up there and wait until morning? (well, if you don't fall asleep and fall of the tree that is :bonk
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I never saw it but I heard it one night. I was out bow hunting during my senior year of high school and was used to seeing maybe 10 deer come out of one particular spot every night for the past few weeks. Then this particular night no deer come out. I thought it was kind of odd. So I wait until there is absolutely no light left. Then I hear this blood curdling type of scream coming from about 200 yards away. I have heard this scream before while watching a TV show about mountain lions. At first I just freeze. Then I climb out of the tree and walk slowly to the house which is maybe 1/2 mile away. Then I hear the scream again and by now I am on a dead run for the house. I could have won the Olympic 400 yard dash. Haaaaaaaa.
holly shit!

Do they climb trees? Wasn't it safer to stay up there and wait until morning? (well, if you don't fall asleep and fall of the tree that is :bonk
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holly shit!

Do they climb trees? Wasn't it safer to stay up there and wait until morning? (well, if you don't fall asleep and fall of the tree that is :bonk
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Ohhh.. now we have resident "cat" expert.. lol. Not all cats climb trees randall..
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then again, some cats know how to climb up, but not how to climb down...
we rarely see these as they are still up there in the foliage. [img]/images/graemlins/laughing.gif[/img]
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