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Old July 23rd, 2008, 02:05 PM   #1
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1996 rt10?

I just bought a 96 rt/10. it is my first viper and i was wondering what the differance in the 96 and 97 are. all the up grades say 92-96 and 97-02. so is a 96 rt10 considered a gen1 or gen 2? also it is one of the last 5 built in 96 so is there any way it might have the 97 engine in it with 450 hp?

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The 1996 RT/10 is sort of a Gen1.5

It has the same motor as the Gen1 cars. It is rated at 415HP though due to the change to rear exit ehaust. It also got the updated lighter Gen2 control arms and suspension components.
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Old July 23rd, 2008, 02:26 PM   #3
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Thanks. so a gen II exhaust wouldnt work?

is is a very late production car and has a 97 under hood supports with the holes for the scoop.
how had would it to drill out the hood and put a scoop in off a newer model?
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Rear exit exhaust is from 96-02. I personally don't know the difference between the engines though I know in 97 it was 450hp/490tq. Someone with more knowledge might be better suited to answer if a gen II exhaust goes onto the 96 engine. I would think it does. Good luck
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Thanks. so a gen II exhaust wouldnt work?

is is a very late production car and has a 97 under hood supports with the holes for the scoop.
how had would it to drill out the hood and put a scoop in off a newer model?
A Gen2 cat-back would work. You would still use Gen1 headers/exhaust manifolds though.

You can add the over wheel vents and/or center NACA duct. Others have done it. I'd be really careful though given the cost of the hood. Personally, I like the smooth hood that I had on my '96 RT/10.
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A Gen2 cat-back would work. You would still use Gen1 headers/exhaust manifolds though.

You can add the over wheel vents and/or center NACA duct. Others have done it. I'd be really careful though given the cost of the hood. Personally, I like the smooth hood that I had on my '96 RT/10.
So would i get more power by just putting gen 2 stock headers on it?
the reason i wand the hole cut is cause i just bought a K&N air intake for it
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So would i get more power by just putting gen 2 stock headers on it?
the reason i wand the hole cut is cause i just bought a K&N air intake for it
Welcome to GEN 1.5 ownership and the problems it presents. Please read all advice given...don't skip over the important parts. You have a GENIIish body, suspension, exhaust, roof, windows etc with a factory improved GENI engine...bare this in mind when ordering parts..

Do not cut the hood just because you bought a K&N intake. Buy the proper intake that replaces the complete stock airbox and seals to the hood...this assures only fresh air is taken in.

You need GENI headers that mate to a GENII pipe.
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Welcome to GEN 1.5 ownership and the problems it presents. Please read all advice given...don't skip over the important parts. You have a GENIIish body, suspension, exhaust, roof, windows etc with a factory improved GENI engine...bare this in mind when ordering parts..

Do not cut the hood just because you bought a K&N intake. Buy the proper intake that replaces the complete stock airbox and seals to the hood...this assures only fresh air is taken in.

You need GENI headers that mate to a GENII pipe.
Ok thanks for the advice.
so if i bought Gen II headers they wouldnt work?


Also, do you kno if the air box for the a/c system off a newer model will work and if it would halp any? i have A/C on it but i see on newer models they have a bigger box.
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Welcome to GEN 1.5 ownership and the problems it presents. Please read all advice given...don't skip over the important parts. You have a GENIIish body, suspension, exhaust, roof, windows etc with a factory improved GENI engine...bare this in mind when ordering parts..

Do not cut the hood just because you bought a K&N intake. Buy the proper intake that replaces the complete stock airbox and seals to the hood...this assures only fresh air is taken in.

You need GENI headers that mate to a GENII pipe.
To be more accurate, the Gen2-ish body parts only include the updated side sills and rear fascia for the rear-exit exhaust. The rest is classic Gen1.

Regarding headers, all after market headers will have model year designations and they will group as '92-'96 RT/10, '97-'02 RT/10, and '96-'02 GTS. All of which would mate to what's referred to above as a Gen2 pipe. The only difference for the Gen1 and Gen2 exhaust is where the exhaust exits after the catalytic converters.



And No, Gen2 headers will not work on a '96 RT/10. I had Edelbrock headers on mine and they worked well. They also sounded wicked when run without cats and coupled with a Borla cat-back.
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To be more accurate, the Gen2-ish body parts only include the updated side sills and rear fascia for the rear-exit exhaust. The rest is classic Gen1.
Not exactly true... The hood is now SMC and has the mark-outs for louvers and duct...the roof pins are different and you now have hard plastic slide windows.
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Gen 2 headers will bolt on with minor mods. (IE=hacksaw) Then you could use the whole exhaust system of off a gen.2
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Not exactly true... The hood is now SMC and has the mark-outs for louvers and duct...the roof pins are different and you now have hard plastic slide windows.
None of which would directly work on a Gen2 with the exception of maybe the roof pins. I stand by me previous statement that the only Gen2-ish body panels on a '96 RT/10 are the side sills and the rear bumper cover. The smoothie hood and window-less doors are still classic Gen1 pieces.
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None of which would directly work on a Gen2 with the exception of maybe the roof pins. I stand by me previous statement that the only Gen2-ish body panels on a '96 RT/10 are the side sills and the rear bumper cover. The smoothie hood and window-less doors are still classic Gen1 pieces.

Yes...it's safe to say the '96 is a confused beast..
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Thanks for all the input,

I just installed the K&N full intake with the box and all. and it doesnt quite fit how i think it should. is this a common problem. or is it because the air box could be for a newer gen II and I have the 96?
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Thanks for all the input,

I just installed the K&N full intake with the box and all. and it doesnt quite fit how i think it should. is this a common problem. or is it because the air box could be for a newer gen II and I have the 96?

Well...we could all guess what ya got and where ya put it...or you could just post a pic.

also...WTF is a 96tr10 ?????
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I will get a pic posted tomorrow.

about the tr10 i guess i just had a mistype while doing my user name.
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I just installed the K&N full intake with the box and all. and it doesnt quite fit how i think it should. is this a common problem. or is it because the air box could be for a newer gen II and I have the 96?
Google is your friend.

If this is what you have -

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?Prod=57-1508

K&Ns application chart lists the same part for '95-'98 Vipers, so that is both Gen1 and Gen2 cars. Installation instructions are there too so you should be able to see what's going on.
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Google is your friend.

If this is what you have -

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?Prod=57-1508

K&Ns application chart lists the same part for '95-'98 Vipers, so that is both Gen1 and Gen2 cars. Installation instructions are there too so you should be able to see what's going on.

yes that is exactly what i got.
it just doesnt seem to want to fit right. i had to mount the filters upside down but that way i fdont have hood clearance.
I will get a pic tomorrow
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yes that is exactly what i got.
it just doesnt seem to want to fit right. i had to mount the filters upside down but that way i fdont have hood clearance.
I will get a pic tomorrow
It's tight but it'll fit... don't run the filters upside down, it'll wear thru your hood pad.
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