That's kind of like holding up 3 fingers and saying "Read between the lines".
Like I said, UGR doesn't need or want my business. I'm ok with that, UGR is still one of the best viper tunes ever. They can pick and choose what customers he wants. I can see they don't want to do heads/cam. They are more interested in Paxton and turbo builds, nothing wrong with that.
Greg is a bit busy, that's why I called UGR.
SO BACK ON SUBJECT...
...WHO'S GOOD WITH THE AEM?
JID: THANKS FOR YOUR HELP SO FAR!!!
Your post is preposterous. UGR has installed head/cam packages on probably more Vipers then anyone. You claiming otherwise shows just how ignorant a person you are. Again, the comment of UGR not needing or wanting your business? Where do you come up with this shit. You make it seem like Kevin goes through a screening process before he choses WHO deserves his skill. Total bullshit Bobby.
You already had a set of Greg Good heads on your car when you contacted the guy. Since you claim, " Kevin wasn't interested in doing heads/cams" are we to assume you were not pleased with your purchase?
Now regarding your car. I would think if a monster TT kit from CPE is in your future you would contact someone like Paolo and see what he recommends for your cars future. Lastly, I can only imagine that it would be rediculously expensive installing and tuning the AEM yourself or with a buddy. Anything that goes wrong is probably going to be very costly to repair. Your car, your right. Others that have walked down your path have paid a hefty price by thinking they are tuners.
Your post is preposterous. UGR has installed head/cam packages on probably more Vipers then anyone. You claiming otherwise shows just how ignorant a person you are. Again, the comment of UGR not needing or wanting your business? Where do you come up with this shit. You make it seem like Kevin goes through a screening process before he choses WHO deserves his skill. Total bullshit Bobby.
You already had a set of Greg Good heads on your car when you contacted the guy. Since you claim, " Kevin wasn't interested in doing heads/cams" are we to assume you were not pleased with your purchase?
Now regarding your car. I would think if a monster TT kit from CPE is in your future you would contact someone like Paolo and see what he recommends for your cars future. Lastly, I can only imagine that it would be rediculously expensive installing and tuning the AEM yourself or with a buddy. Anything that goes wrong is probably going to be very costly to repair. Your car, your right. Others that have walked down your path have paid a hefty price by thinking they are tuners.
Good luck with your tuning.
Once again, Josh the Asshole has taken more unnecessary shots at people. Apparently the mods warning you wasn't enough.
Let's all remind Josh that he's an asshole who can't keep his mouth shut.
Oh wait... we are constantly reminded as-is.
Josh - Stop trying to 'defend' UGR's 'honor'. They are big boys and they can handle it. While you insist on being an unauthorized mouthpiece you do Kevin and UGR no favors.
Joe, Let me break this down for you one last time. Kevin was told of Bobby's post because it is not in his character to not get back to a person when they call. Regardless of the way Bobby recalled the events, Kevin recalled them differently. He merely said he remembered Bobby saying he had a et of GG ported heads. HE DOES!!! He also recalled YOU and GG having experience with installing a solid roller cam in a viper. What is so wrong about that. Better yet Joe, don't answer. Your delusional method of thinking obviously CAN'T accept me typing your name, good or bad. I am through arguing a point you can't see anyway. The mods asked the shit to end and I am ending it. You are trying to simply see something negative in a post that isn't there just to drag me into a scrap with you. It isn't happening.
Liar. As evident from your other posts, you aren't through arguing.
Your post is preposterous. UGR has installed head/cam packages on probably more Vipers then anyone. You claiming otherwise shows just how ignorant a person you are. Again, the comment of UGR not needing or wanting your business? Where do you come up with this shit. You make it seem like Kevin goes through a screening process before he choses WHO deserves his skill. Total bullshit Bobby.
You already had a set of Greg Good heads on your car when you contacted the guy. Since you claim, " Kevin wasn't interested in doing heads/cams" are we to assume you were not pleased with your purchase?
Now regarding your car. I would think if a monster TT kit from CPE is in your future you would contact someone like Paolo and see what he recommends for your cars future. Lastly, I can only imagine that it would be rediculously expensive installing and tuning the AEM yourself or with a buddy. Anything that goes wrong is probably going to be very costly to repair. Your car, your right. Others that have walked down your path have paid a hefty price by thinking they are tuners.
Good luck with your tuning.
Josh, your a dork. It must be that time of the month again.
Kevin didn't want to do the work I'm fine with that.
Josh, your a dork. It must be that time of the month again.
Kevin didn't want to do the work I'm fine with that.
Installing a cam under someone else's heads is a dicey project. You don't know what springs and retainers are installed, if the spring pockets have been cut deeper, if the piston valve reliefs have been cut or need cutting, if the guides have been altered to accomodate the new lift of the cam, rockers, pushrods, guide plates, ect,ect.
Nobody wants to go behind someone else's work if they can help it. Nothing against any tuner, head porter, or owner, It's just many have been bit by the "other" guy.
Kevin was being professional, and had the customer's best interests at heart (as usual) to go where he will get the best service for what he wants to do with the car.
I didn't read any slamming in Josh's post, Joe. He was simply stating it the best way he knew how.
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thing about these forums are for tech support, it is not going to teach you how to tune. not to mention there is always that guy who know it all post crappy tuning file and end in engine failure.
have pro tune for you. save time, money and headache
Installing a cam under someone else's heads is a dicey project. You don't know what springs and retainers are installed, if the spring pockets have been cut deeper, if the piston valve reliefs have been cut or need cutting, if the guides have been altered to accomodate the new lift of the cam, rockers, pushrods, guide plates, ect,ect.
Nobody wants to go behind someone else's work if they can help it. Nothing against any tuner, head porter, or owner, It's just many have been bit by the "other" guy.
Kevin was being professional, and had the customer's best interests at heart (as usual) to go where he will get the best service for what he wants to do with the car.
I didn't read any slamming in Josh's post, Joe. He was simply stating it the best way he knew how.
So explain to me why the post couldn't have been "I talked to Kevin and he indicated that since another tuner was involved with the project he didn't want to take on the liability for someone else's work" ???
Instead to toss me and Greg under the bus and then twist words around to say "you weren't happy with them". That is the manipulative asshole move.
While I may have been a touch harsh in my original post and while I was considering a public apology, instead I'll give you a . Especially since you continue to twist words and defend your bullshit position. You should have no dog in this fight. Instead, you make it your position to 'defend the honor' of Kevin. I don't know how old you think Kevin is, but he's done a pretty good job of representing himself without you as a mouthpiece.
In the past, you had indicated that you weren't an official UGR mouthpiece. Today and yesterday, you ARE. So how do we know which days you are and are not? How about a little + sign next to your name that says when you are and a - when you aren't?
dumbass...
But let get's one thing clear: Kevin has a right to choose who he does business with w/o question (and that includes not doing business w/ people he doesn't like). There is nothing wrong with that. What is wrong is that you v9pistonslapper twist the words and manipulate the situation like you are innocent. When in fact, you STILL don't have an AEM serial gauge. lol!
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Reason: No gauge for you... ever!
Disturbed 01- If you are serious about tuning take a course at efi101.com. Their basic course is extremely informative and easy to understand. Its affordable and your money is well spent. At the track, hang around people that know what they are doing and take pointers from them. You will find out that 2 people can obtain the same results from different approaches-- one approach may be more aggressive than the other creating a lot of heat in the system. You will develop your own style and approach over time based on your results. Good tuning requires a lot of time, effort and questions. I wouldn't try my 1st attempt on a high $ car.
So explain to me why the post couldn't have been "I talked to Kevin and he indicated that since another tuner was involved with the project he didn't want to take on the liability for someone else's work" ???
Instead to toss me and Greg under the bus and then twist words around to say "you weren't happy with them". That is the manipulative asshole move.
While I may have been a touch harsh in my original post and while I was considering a public apology, instead I'll give you a . Especially since you continue to twist words and defend your bullshit position. You should have no dog in this fight. Instead, you make it your position to 'defend the honor' of Kevin. I don't know how old you think Kevin is, but he's done a pretty good job of representing himself without you as a mouthpiece.
In the past, you had indicated that you weren't an official UGR mouthpiece. Today and yesterday, you ARE. So how do we know which days you are and are not? How about a little + sign next to your name that says when you are and a - when you aren't?
dumbass...
But let get's one thing clear: Kevin has a right to choose who he does business with w/o question (and that includes not doing business w/ people he doesn't like). There is nothing wrong with that. What is wrong is that you v9pistonslapper twist the words and manipulate the situation like you are innocent. When in fact, you STILL don't have an AEM serial gauge. lol!
. Especially since you continue to twist words and defend your bullshit position. You should have no dog in this fight. Instead, you make it your position to 'defend the honor' of Kevin. I don't know how old you think Kevin is, but he's done a pretty good job of representing himself without you as a mouthpiece. 
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