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Old May 2nd, 2008, 04:28 PM   #1
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Help Please - Gas pump cutting off early

I have a 1997 GTS that I took out of storage a few weeks ago. When I stored the car last winter I had to manually fill the gas tank with one of those portable gas containers and attached nozzle. I overfilled the tank (a little gas over spill came out but no big deal).

Question - Now the car is on the road again, the last two times I filled up the tank the gas pump shuts off like the tank is full but the tank is only half full. The pump just shuts off well before the tank is full. I didn't force any gas until I could post the question.

What did I do? Did that portable container push down some sensor on the fuel filler neck? I looked at the service manual and I can't see what I could have done.

Thoughts?
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Old May 2nd, 2008, 05:03 PM   #2
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I have a 1997 GTS that I took out of storage a few weeks ago. When I stored the car last winter I had to manually fill the gas tank with one of those portable gas containers and attached nozzle. I overfilled the tank (a little gas over spill came out but no big deal).

Question - Now the car is on the road again, the last two times I filled up the tank the gas pump shuts off like the tank is full but the tank is only half full. The pump just shuts off well before the tank is full. I didn't force any gas until I could post the question.

What did I do? Did that portable container push down some sensor on the fuel filler neck? I looked at the service manual and I can't see what I could have done.

Thoughts?
just go put gas in it. it will be okay! or else the car is try'n to save you money...
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Old May 2nd, 2008, 05:10 PM   #3
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Sometimes I have to fiddle a bit at the pump when I'm filling up my 05' Mustang GT. You can find a technique on just how hard to squeeze the handle but ALOT of times, it's the particular pump handle itself. I know at some gas stations, it's easy to fill up and at others it keeps clicking off, over and over... Most of the time, I squeeze the handle but not all the way up and I also apply a little pressure on the side of the handle as if I were bending it. It seems to stay on without shutting off that way. Those gas handles can be very flakey.....
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Old May 2nd, 2008, 05:28 PM   #4
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There isn't a sensor in your car that tells the pump to shut off, it is in the pump. In my RT/10 it was a pain to fill up because the sensors would always trip out but the GTS has been pretty normal. Many states now have a vapor recovery system that will shut off a pump if there isn't a decent seal. If your pumps have them, just make sure that the flap around the nozzle is adjusted to sit flush against the car.
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Old May 2nd, 2008, 06:07 PM   #5
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if it's like the ones here, don't push the nozzle all te way in, i normally hold it about 1-2 inches from all the way in the the tank.
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Old May 2nd, 2008, 08:46 PM   #6
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if it's like the ones here, don't push the nozzle all te way in, i normally hold it about 1-2 inches from all the way in the the tank.
+1 Same thing here.
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Old May 2nd, 2008, 09:17 PM   #7
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Glad to hear it happens to other people too.

I have had it happen to all my Chrysler products, thought it was specific to that brand. I was getting ready actually to send some pipe bombs to Chrysler but since you guys seem to have it happen to other cars, I may hold off on that.
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Old May 2nd, 2008, 09:31 PM   #8
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Glad to hear it happens to other people too.

I have had it happen to all my Chrysler products, thought it was specific to that brand. I was getting ready actually to send some pipe bombs to Chrysler but since you guys seem to have it happen to other cars, I may hold off on that.
The 05' Mustangs were actually recalled because of this. I never took mine in to get fixed... I just learned how to make it work. Maybe it depends on the angle of the pipe or something, but yea, it's common with alot of cars.
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Old May 3rd, 2008, 02:06 AM   #9
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Thanks guys. I'll stop freaking out now!!
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Old May 3rd, 2008, 09:29 AM   #10
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Fuel dispenser nozzles have a backflow (full tank) sensor near the end of the delivery tube. Vehicle fuel fillers have a return vent hose that terminates at the neck. I would guess the problem you're having is caused from the incoming fuel stream splashing back up the vent hose and touching the dispenser nozzle cutoff.
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Old May 3rd, 2008, 09:36 AM   #11
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Fuel dispenser nozzles have a backflow (full tank) sensor near the end of the delivery tube. Vehicle fuel fillers have a return vent hose that terminates at the neck. I would guess the problem you're having is caused from the incoming fuel stream splashing back up the vent hose and touching the dispenser nozzle cutoff.
my old SRT QC did this and the viper tech just told me to drive it over some bumpy roads......and it fixed itself. I'm not sure I would try that with my cars though...it did suck though spending 15 minutes to fill my truck up though..
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Old May 3rd, 2008, 09:39 AM   #12
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Joel,

I think that's the rollover protection valve. There's a ball & seat assembly in there that keeps fuel from pouring out if the tank is inverted and the filler cap is missing.
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Old May 3rd, 2008, 11:25 AM   #13
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I think that's the rollover protection valve. There's a ball & seat assembly in there that keeps fuel from pouring out if the tank is inverted and the filler cap is missing.
That makes more sense. Do they have them in our cars?
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But I thought Vipers don't roll over......lol
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