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Old April 20th, 2008, 07:28 PM   #1
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Help settle a arguement on curb weight.

Having a arguement with my friends. Is the listed curb weight with fluids or without? Any other criterea? I googled searched my curb weight. I got a Gen I. Came up at 3280lbs. I took it to the scale with the top and windows off. 1/2 tank of gas and came up at 3380. So is the curb weight without fluids? I don't know why I would come up 100lbs over curb weight otherwise. I got stock exhaust and everything. I do have factory option A/C, so that might factor in. Anyway, just curious.
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Old April 21st, 2008, 06:14 AM   #3
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Old April 21st, 2008, 10:03 AM   #4
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Maybe it's the driver?

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Old April 21st, 2008, 12:26 PM   #5
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Doubt it, I was off the scale when it was weighed. I guess nobody knows.
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Old April 21st, 2008, 12:36 PM   #6
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Curb is as-delivered, full lubricants and full fuel, I believe. Shipping weight is usually with only 3-5 gal in the tank. My GTS weighs 3407# with 1/2 tank of fuel.

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Old April 21st, 2008, 02:58 PM   #8
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I know the deffinition of curb weight. My question is to why the #'s don't jive? Gen I Viper = 3280lb curb weight. My weight was 3380 on 1/2 tank of gas. So why all the extra weight if curb weight is full fluids and full tank of gas?
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So why all the extra weight if curb weight is full fluids and full tank of gas?

I'm sure we can blame it on Global Warming, like everything else.
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I know the deffinition of curb weight. My question is to why the #'s don't jive? Gen I Viper = 3280lb curb weight. My weight was 3380 on 1/2 tank of gas. So why all the extra weight if curb weight is full fluids and full tank of gas?
Do you have extra shit in the trunk? Do you have an aftermarket stereo system? Do you have wheels? Do you have runflats? What brake rotors do you have, or for that matter brake calipers? Have you changed the exhaust? There are lots of variables.
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Its completely stock, exhaust, wheels, stereo, etc... trunk is empty. rear tire and jack taken out. top and windows were also off the car.
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who cares? its what the car weighs.. if you want it lighter, start pulling shit out....
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I know the deffinition of curb weight. My question is to why the #'s don't jive? Gen I Viper = 3280lb curb weight. My weight was 3380 on 1/2 tank of gas. So why all the extra weight if curb weight is full fluids and full tank of gas?
3 of many possibilities:

1. The gravitational pull of the earth has increased in the last 13 years accounting for the 2.95% of increased weight of the vehicle.

2. The last 13 years have built up roughly 100lbs of debris in and around the car in various nooks and crannies

3. Dodge made a typo.

I'm a glass half full kind of guy, at least you get to hook up a little better?

also... is this with or without the top/windows etc... and if you have the hardtop on is it factory or aftermarket?
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Old April 21st, 2008, 09:39 PM   #15
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scales are not weighing right most big scales are off 50 to 100 #
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Old April 21st, 2008, 11:45 PM   #16
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This is without top and windows. I'm not saying my car is too heavy or anything like that. This was stricly a thread for my own knowledge.
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scales are not weighing right most big scales are off 50 to 100 #
I would also assume there's some sort of "tolerance" that them big scales have. I mean, when you get into "tons"... there may be close to 100lbs of play here and there. Especially if the scale is an older model.

Here is a good test scenario for you to do... Go to Wals Marts and head for the bathroom scale isle. Take out about 10 different scales (2 of each model) and start standing. *ahem* I have never done this personally...well, ok, maybe I have...... Anyhow, see how much the scales vary under a load of a few hundred pounds (that would be your approximate body weight)...maybe they all vary by 1% -2%. Now generalize this for your overweight Viper application, by adding a few zeros at the end of your results and taking into consideration the 1% - 2% variance. There you will probably verify the 100lb difference you saw on your particular automotive scale, compared to the official "Dodge Viper Scale" that measures every and all Vipers as they come off the Viper assembly line, if there is such a thing. And here is the big kicker!!!!!!!!!! Was the scale your car was weighed on calibrated??? Maybe it is out of calibration and I'm SURE.... scales like that have to be calibrated often. In short, don't sweat it... Try another scale of you know of any others around. I know of two in Austin locally and also one at the track, so if it came down to it for me, I would check a few others out for kicks. There are usually scales like that at metal scrap yards and at some race tracks.

oh, almost forgot..... post your results from Wals Marts too!
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Being an owner of several truck scales, I can tell you that the indicator tolerance is 20 lbs. Also, scales require re-zeroing a few times a day. It is not uncommon for us to see 80-120# drift throughout the day, most likely from thermal expansion stress. If you just drove up and asked for a weight, there's no guarantee the operator zeroed it before you drove on.

Gen 1s have heavier suspensions than Gen 2s, but less glass.
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Having a arguement with my friends. Is the listed curb weight with fluids or without? Any other criterea? I googled searched my curb weight. I got a Gen I. Came up at 3280lbs. I took it to the scale with the top and windows off. 1/2 tank of gas and came up at 3380. So is the curb weight without fluids? I don't know why I would come up 100lbs over curb weight otherwise. I got stock exhaust and everything. I do have factory option A/C, so that might factor in. Anyway, just curious.
3280lbs is probably the "dry" weight of a gen1 which means no fluids or gas (this is what lambo and ferrari use to make their cars appear lighter than they are). Curb weight of a gen1 is in the 3500lbs range (all fluids and full tank).
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