This is going in this forum because it is real world and not a "smack" issue. This is purely an intro to set the stage: reposted from the Krazypsi thread....
This whole issue has affected real world people, some very personally as you are going to find out. The genie is going to come out of the bottle because someone rubbed it long enough. But there won't be 3 wishes granted.
This thread has been useful for flushing out people and exposing a whole new generation of AE's.
So, by popular request I am finally going to come clean. It will be on a new thread. It will not be a cowardly snipe, I will confront directly the person I address. AE's can piss off because I will expose your bullshit for what it is. If anyone here has anything to fear from exposure it sure is not me. I will be as brutally honest with myself as with the person I address.
For the avoidance of doubt – only 2 members (TM and Krazypsi) have been called out by the Heffner supporters to put up or shut up, and we are going to oblige. I've agreed to go first.
I am not on trial, I will write from first hand experience and knowledge, so every poster that tries to redirect my threads to cast doubts on my credibility - will be ignored or bent over.
So let's get a few things straight before I post the story you haven't heard yet:.
1 - I have never offered for sale products or services, nor accepted a cent for the same, from any members here.
2 - I have never been on Heffners payroll, nor an employee. If you have been told that – you will soon find out you were lied to, and discover what the agreement REALLY said.
3 - Heffner on the other hand, has accepted hundreds of thousands of dollars from members on this site, plus whatever from other customers off this site.
4 – Therefore, Heffner is the subject of interest, not me. Who gives a crap about TM when he has no financial interests in this community? The attention is going to go exactly where it belongs and that is to the man taking money. Afterall, if you are going to spend $20k or $60k with someone, you should be interested in whether you are making the best investment for your money. This will NOT be a poor taste tuner bash session. I have better things to do than waste time being a sissy, judge me on what I unfold, not your preconceived ideas and allegiances.
5 – By request, I will spell out my agenda in terms so clearly even the lawyer here (who misread everything I have posted so far on the subject) can understand it.
6 – Dear AE's, stop dragging UGR into this. Try as you might to associate UGR with this whole thread and issue, they are not involved in anything I have posted, and they have no clue what I post until they see it the same time as you do. I do not communicate with anyone at UGR before or after my posting here on these matters. Read my posts again if you are confused - the ONLY references I have made to UGR have been to compliment them on good work. Just as I have done and still do for CPE. Just as I USED TO DO for Heffner Performance a long time ago. I appreciate good work, and I am happy to point to it and say publicly, hey that is good work. That is not nutswinging. There are no posts of mine that in any way communicate that I am a spokesperson for UGR or that there is even a link. So leave UGR out of this.
7 - This will be between TM and Heffner and involve some others who believe it is time that people know.
8 - This is not another "one off" tuner cock up soap opera or whiney bitch drama. But it will polarize the community. Tough shit, I've been silent for long enough and the butt of jokes since this began. The time has come and you, with the money, deserve to hear the truth and then make up your own minds. I will say nothing untrue or that I would not be prepared to say in a court of law. I am not on a revenge mission, nor even very emotionally involved at this point, but I will deliver, I promise. When this is done, a few of you I have offended will understand why and we can be friends again.
Someone said the truth will set you free. Actually the truth is going to hurt.
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Exactly. AE's just make it more hearsay instead of fact. It gives more credibility if everyone knows who is making the accusations.
I hope your concerns were answered above.
And just a note: I'm not here to make accusations. Neither is Barry.
This is not a court of law. It's just a forum, for goodness sake.
But our story will be heard now. And it's something I would have liked a LONG time ago. But, husbands know best...
So...for the 3 years I've been "in the know" and watched in silence...I'm going to enjoy this for what it is. Closure. For me.
Oh, one last thing. Just because someone is using an AE or not does not mean that what they say is fact. We'll be much closer to fact than fiction when all of this is said and done.
