Hey DorkMonster, bend over because I'm about to break it off in you, you crazy moonbat.
Ok so listen up folks, Barry the halfwit has made a lot of claims in his posts, many of which have been edited by the moderators because they are 3rd hand assumptions instead of anything factual.
He sold everything he owned, borrowed money to buy plane tickets (why would a successful CFO have to borrow money to come here?) and moved everything to the USA without any contract from Heffners and without anything in writing at all apparently.
Bear in mind the actions of the guy we're dealing with here... what is the mentality of someone who acts in that way? The words that come to mind for me are overzealous, desperate, etc. They are the actions of someone rushing to say YES at the first hint of someone accepting their BS.
So it sort of calls into question who this guy is and what he is about. Well, here's a post from Torquemonster from another forum... this guy is a certified LOON. Check this out...
So TM the moonbat claims our American engineers aren't worth their salt because 3 NZ'ers have developed engines that run on water. Yes, you read that right - TM claims that 3 people in NZ have developed engines that run only on water. We're not talking hydrogen powered cars where the H2 comes from water, we are talking engines that run on frickin tap water.
He goes on to say that said people who developed these engines sometimes died "mysteriously" and how one was escorted away never to be seen again.
I know what you're thinking - but hold that thought, there's more....
So here TM is saying that scientists don't know what they are talking about and are clinging to false beliefs because to accept another truth would call all their beliefs into question. What sort of science are you saying is bogus TM, pray tell????
LOL. M-O-O-N-B-A-T. So TM disputes Einstein's theories (which of course anyone with an IQ in the double digits know have been proven beyond all doubt, numerous times). He also says that the 'real' knowledge is being held by people with money. Let me guess - the oil companies who killed off the guy that invented the 100mph carburetor right DorkMonster? I know, folks, I know, but hold back your laughter, there is more of this gold.
Suuure, so governments and big corporations just call people quacks to hide the fact that they are uncovering 'real science' (like cars that run on water)
Yeah, DorkMonster has it all figured out - the secrets that the governments and big corporations don't want us to know is that water *IS* a viable fuel for engine. I mean - it makes perfect sense right? Who hasn't been running a nice hot bath when all of a sudden the water ignites and you escape a fiery death with only your lack of eyebrows to show for it. I mean, come on - we all know that mixing water with gas 50:50 is the secret to "massive power gains", right?
The question Heffner forgot to ask was if you were mentally stable and sane. Most take it as a given that people they run into are not nutjobs, but in TM's case he should have dug deeper. Or maybe TM was going to clue Heffner into the secret of massive power gains by mixing gas and water in 50:50 mixtures? Hey maybe I am onto something here... TM posted on the Morgue about building "super Vipers" - $250k a piece Vipers build from stock Vipers but having every part removed and the whole car re-assembled "the right way". Maybe TM was going to install his high-zoot water engines in these cars and they would do the 1/4 mile in -4 seconds (I know what you're thinking - you're thinking "how can you do the quarter in a negative time?" but you are obviously part of the system - the corporate machine. Those of us who know that Einstein's "science" was all junk know that with a water engine you could run the quarter mile so fast that you'd run through the traps before you actually left the start line! I shouldn't have told you that - there's black helicopters circling my house now!
I am speechless on this one.
annnnnd there it is.... the pièce de résistance... the hallmark of any true moonbat - that the big oil and energy corporations and the government is behind this big sham and are keeping everything else under wraps.
That's the moonbat hat trick for the world to see...
1) Science is wrong and a bunch of BS fed to you to stop real innovation
2) The big corporations and government control us all and eliminate dissenters
3) A select few know the 'real truth' and we're all just plugged into the matrix
That's the triumvirate of quack right there folks.
Now - keeping all that in mind (I know, it's getting long but you have to admit it's hilarious... let's go to the logical conclusion)...
So keeping that in mind, THIS GUY is the dude that shows up at your doorstep to be your "business partner". Are you fucking kidding me? THIS GUY shows up. Mr black helicopters super-power-WWII-water-engine guy. Einstein-is-wrong-and-only-I-know-it guy. THIS GUY.
The guy who will make shit up just to try to get his point across. Let's see - he is the guy who figured out using Quaife diffs? LOL! They were used long before he was on the scene. RSI was using Mark Williams shafts more than a frickin YEAR before Heff ever put them on a car - and TM wants to take these as HIS ideas?
Does this guy have ANY credibility? Can you take ANYTHING he says seriously????
I don't even have to slam his head into the wall anymore, he's doing it himself.
And TM - I want you to know something.... I worked for the federal government and DoD for a while. I know the REAL story. I am clued in. I am part of the machine. Did you think we'd let this get out? Did you think we'd let this slide? Did you think we'd let our secrets out? Our technology? Our control???? Muhahahahahahahah!!!!!
(we're all laughing, TM is having a revelation about the "true nature" of my posts).
LOLOL!
moonbat!
Holy shit, you would have thought this thread was titled "TM and SRTMike intro." -carry on.
All I can say is when has, or who has, ever confused theory with fact? Two vastly different things.
Also, them dumb American scientist sure have developed a lot of engine shit. Come to think of it, he is right... Americans know nothing about engines. Hell, follow my lineage to find Frank and Charles Duryea. Dumb bicycle builders that develop an engine and car, and go on to win the first race in America. Sure the top speed was never over 10 mph, but I suspect, nay, theorize it would have been more had they had water on hand.
The only thing I am wondering is: What the hell does any of this have to do with his dealings with Heffner. Yes it is funny, and if TM said all of that, then he is fucked up more than one would have thought. Still... What?
-Tim
The only thing I am wondering is: What the hell does any of this have to do with his dealings with Heffner. Yes it is funny, and if TM said all of that, then he is fucked up more than one would have thought. Still... What?
-Tim
I'm only theorizing here, but it could be an insinuation that what is represented in phone calls and emails isn't always what shows up at your doorstep.
I'm only theorizing here, but it could be an insinuation that what is represented in phone calls and emails isn't always what shows up at your doorstep.
So that is it. Wait, did I confuse fact and theory?
We all hate to be played with in a deceitful manner. It's game that has no end as long as parties are willing to keep going. So I'm not playing that game.
Anyone genuinely interested can pm me on anything that they want clarification on.
The only point I will comment to publicly is TWYD called Krazypsi and I WANNABE's. Well, calling Krazypsi that is hilarious, me I can understand.
I'll take it as a compliment because we are all either wannabe's, neverwillbe's or hasbeens. Which camp we are in depends on what runs between our ears and what we do with the rest of our lives. I choose to be content with where I am today, and press forward towards something better tomorrow. That makes me a wannabe, and that suits me better than being a hasbeen or neverwillbe.
Peace Norm. Glad you're in a position you can sit and relax and look back ;-)
My name is Mark Anderson. My background is in engineering. I’ve been watching and decided to clear a few things up. I too travelled to the other side of the world based upon promises made by Jason Heffner. I agreed to come to Heffner Performance to work with Jason and Barry (Torquemonster) and assist them to take the business from a small workshop to a much larger enterprise over a period of time.
To do this, like Torquemonster, I was willing to take a backwards step from where I was for a period so that we could all help build something significant and worthwhile together doing something we were all passionate about.
I arrived a week before Torquemonster and his family to find that rather than having a temp place to stay in so I could look at accommodation. I was taken to a basement apartment where all the plumbing and air con for the floors above came through the room. This noise made sleep impossible without ear muffs. I’m no prima donna, so this would have been ok as a temp arrangement, but Jason then told me that he had told the landlord (a lie) that he’d just gotten divorced and needed the apartment for himself. He had signed up for a 1 year lease without consulting me. That caused friction when I told him I couldn’t handle that for a year.
A green card was also one of the issues before I agreed to come over. While TM could get one as a formality, it was not so easy for me. Jason promised before I left to help me with this, but when I got there I was told I was on my own.
The workshop had no working area for me. Therefore I cleared some working space and promptly got into trouble because I had moved some stuff that was in private storage away from the work area. I had also advised before I left that until my work visa arrived I would not be allowed to bring my tools over to the USA, and was told no problem that there was enough in the shop. When I got there I was told in no uncertain terms Jasons tool box was off limits, and the boys there, John and TJ had spent large sums of money out of their personal incomes for their own, making me feel bad having to ask them to use theirs. When we needed tools we did not have, Jason expected me to go next door to another business to people I had not been introduced to, and ask to borrow theirs. Any tradesman knows how personal tools are regarded, this I saw as a very unreasonable request to a stranger.
My background includes skills/knowledge in metallurgy, machine and production processes, and general engine building/car engineering. I had also been building engines and racing a car (I had rebuilt myself from the ground up) for over 20 years.
It was pre-agreed that I would be used to determining the most efficient and best ways to do things, streamline the operation to be the best we could make it, and put in place best practice principles and systems as we could afford to.
My first hand observations experience there includes:
· The turbo car exhaust manifolds at that time were not headers, but a short fabricated combination of SS304 pipe that required multiple welds and cuts. The standard of welding by Brian was quite good on the outside, but the inside was not cleaned up and this would have created hot spots and significant flow restrictions. The amount of welding required and expansion and contraction involved would lead to inevitable cracking at some point. The design broke the engineering “minimum damage rule” for working with stainless steel. i.e. you take the product from the factory and do the very least amount of damage to it to create the best result. The more you work SS the worse it gets.
· I talked with Jason about ways to make them better as Jason was not open to changing his design, so we focused on how make that design in a “minimum damage” way which would have involved pressing instead of cutting and multiple welding. I do not know if this was ever done after I left.
· I found it difficult to teach Jason. An example of this was on Mash’s car. That car came in with problems from another tuner and we had to do the top end of the motor, install a Paxton and tune it. We noticed that Jason was installing T & D rocker bars upside down. This was reinforced by two of us in the workshop at that time. Jason argued, so Brian, the fabricator found and pulled out the instructions with a clear picture showing how they were supposed to be put on. Jason threw his toys out of the cot and stormed into the office. We did not see Jason again for 3 days. He stayed in his office sulking while we and the boys labored on his customers cars in the summer heat.
· On the 3rd day he appeared, then spent the day playing with his remote controlled cars in the parking area behind the shop. I was quite dismayed because we had a lot of work to do and could have used his help.
· This also did not make it a welcoming proposition to teach him much of anything, but I persisted in my own gentle way, as I had come a long way to be there and to help, and he needed it.
· There was no understanding of hot metal and glass in the workshop. The workshop was full of cars and almost an hour was wasted in the morning just getting them out, and again in the evenings bringing them back in just to make room to work. Of the cars that remained in the shop there was no real protection on customer cars. Kens SRT10 had been there for months and was covered in shit and the windows were down, so it was full of shit inside as well. When asked why not put the windows up, the reply was “flat battery”, as though there were no batteries in the shop. So I started putting covers on cars anywhere near the fabrication and welding area. When hot bits of metal spark off a grinder or welder and they land on paint, unless they can pool in a crevice and burn the paint, they typically cool and leave a black mark that will wipe off without scratching if washed very carefully. Not so with glass. It looks like dust, but when this hot material lands on glass it actually beds into the glass itself creating permanent damage. There was no understanding of this, so I tried to reinforce the importance of covers around cars before any grinding and welding was done near by.
· There was heaps of room for improvement in many other areas, but this is typical for any young and growing workshop so I’m not going to be nit picky.
· Another example which led me to be concerned about Jasons actual engine building knowledge and skill was watching him install Oliver rods. The instructions are clear that the bolts need to be torqued up to spec, released, then retorqued again. This is to be repeated 5 times to allow for correct rod stretch. I discussed this with Jason because it is important to the integrity of the bolt holding power. Jason was simply torquing the rod bolts up and walking away. His response to my discussion on the importance of this was to tell me this was the way he did it and that was that. That would not work on a race engine that rpms high, and it was a foolish and unnecessary practice given the money and exclusivity of these cars. I would not cut corners on con rods as they are integral to the integrity of the engine.
· While I was there a couple of fuel pumps had burned out very prematurely on customer cars. I discussed the way these had been wired up with Jason previously on cars in the shop and was told that was they way they do it in the USA. In my opinion these large facet pumps are robust and reliable. They are magnetic pumps with a piston that travels backwards and forward to create fuel pressure. It is a great design and very reliable. Jason was switching them in such a way that a residual low volt could remain in the units, even if the ignition was switched on momentarily. A low volt is very hard on electronic circuitry. The earth was positioned such that it would be prone to getting dirt which would reduce the ability of the earth to do its job. Switching was after the pump, not a good combination. I recommended using a relay and switching prior to the pump which guarantees that residual low voltage cannot erode the life of the components.
· When it came to building a performance engine Jason did not have a clue. This is a fact that comes from over 20 years of building high powered engines both naturally aspirated and boosted engines, and being around some of the best race engine builders there are and being intimate with how it is done. Jason lacked the rudimentary skills to do much more than bolt together what parts he was given and trust that the parts were machined correctly. His idea of blueprinting seemed to be “as long as the pistons are the same weight”. He had no real engine building equipment at that time other than a valve spring compressor and a digital vernier. He relied on the integrity of what he had to work with… a dangerous game.
· I recall that Torquemonster had to explain to Jason in detail and even draw pictures on how to build a tight quench engine. I found this remarkable given every race engine builder I know does this routinely on their engines because the quench (squish) is a significant factor in the engines power and efficiency. As it happened, Jason lacked the simple tools required to be able to accurately build a tight quench engine anyway. Which was a worry because Kens SRT10 TT was sitting there with a built engine that had Torquemonsters/my designed pistons in it that were built for tight quench. We just prayed the unblueprinted assembly was not going to touch piston to head because there was little we could do now he had built it. Torquemonster and I had assumed this was routine for a good engine shop.
· By the time Barry (Torquemonster) arrived a week after me, I was pretty disillusioned. The vision Torquemonster had developed and run past several very knowledgeable people was exciting, and in my mind very do-able. But there was no way Jason still in his 20’s was mature enough to allow, let alone make it happen. I lost confidence in Jason and decided to leave. I felt for Barry and simply hoped he could pull something out of the hat with Jason, but my observations before leaving was that Barry was given no opportunity to manage anything. As a result, from the time he got there, all he could do to contribute was take a load off Jason and provide ideas. It was a raw deal for us all. That is life, we’ve both moved on.
Jason lacked experience and knowledge in key areas, and was a very average tuner when it came to being able to overcome complex problems. Given the safety issues surrounding the power and the exclusivity of these cars, I felt the foundation these cars were built upon was inadequate with inherent potential weaknesses in both safety and reliability. Certainly nothing a OEM could certify.
I accept Jason has learned something since that time, nevertheless, the above is a true reflection of my Heffner experience: Mark
Mark,
Good post. I think that this does more for TM's "cause" than his own post. Moreover, we need to discuss phrases...
What does the throwing toys from a cot have to do with car? And goddamnit, it is ground, not Earth. I was reading that and was picturing the fucking Earth not doing it's job an orbiting...
-Tim
Mark,
Good post. I think that this does more for TM's "cause" than his own post. Moreover, we need to discuss phrases...
What does the throwing toys from a cot have to do with car? And goddamnit, it is ground, not Earth. I was reading that and was picturing the fucking Earth not doing it's job an orbiting...
-Tim
Earth is debated to be the propper term, and not ground.
Just like black is actually conisdered to be a "hot" wire, and white is "ground"
Your credibility dies there with me. You came to another country illegally without any research or care for it's laws. You are not eligible for a green card. You may have been eligible for a work visa. You had to do that before you came. You had to have lied to immigration as you entered the country.
You lie easily.
I was born and raised in a Commonwealth country like you. When I wanted to come to the U.S. I told the truth and followed the rules. It took a long time. I pay my taxes and obey the laws.(except, maybe the speeding thing) Did you pay your taxes on the money you made in your time here? Or is that another little issue?
TQ refers to you as an engineer. Where did you get your engineering degree and where are you licensed as a PEng? Or is he lieing about that? Or is that just another little legal detail that you guys don't really need, but can sweep away?
You make great claims as to your expertise and experience. Please tell us who you did that car engineering for.
"This is a fact that comes from over 20 years of building high powered engines....being around some of the best race engine builders there are."
It's a very small world in the racing buisness. I'm having one race engine built in one shop, and another refreshed in another. It will be easy to check. If you are going to slam a respected tuner publicly, then show some proof that you have done what you say you have. Give us specifics.
Last edited by sundiego : April 21st, 2008 at 11:08 AM.
It's extremely hard to read this without laughing. That said, this is the internet, so there's never a guarantee any given person is or isn't smart enough to make inferences when presented with a clusterfuck of logical inconsistencies.
I am anxiously awaiting the introduction of the Mayor of Auckland, who on good faith chose to leave his position to become the parts kid at Heffner Performance, but arrived only to learn that they didn't know how to alphabetize the shelves.
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One thing that's certain with the internet. Those with illusions of grandeur can find ample support for their neurosis, to the point where their fantasies becomes very real in their mind and manifests itself in inflated claims and paranoia.
One thing that's certain with the internet. Those with illusions of grandeur can find ample support for their neurosis, to the point where their fantasies becomes very real in their mind and manifests itself in inflated claims and paranoia....
One of the most classic statements I have read in a really long time. Biggs puts it all down in one simple to read, simple to understand, simple to equate style that only those with more money than brains would have a hard time understanding. Jason builds some great cars and has proven his value to the community that deals with that. TM has, hopefully, learned a lesson about travel planning. Krazy seems pretty successful...and silence speaks volumes about just what someone has accomplished in a life.
Btw....Levin built my GTS in 2001...and I threw a belt this past year...he sooooooo sucks at what he does. Hell...if I knew that the car was going to chuck a belt on me....I would never have paid him for all the "other" hard work he did.
Doug...you owe me a belt...but....the car is a beast. Thanks!
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Mark,
Good post. I think that this does more for TM's "cause" than his own post. Moreover, we need to discuss phrases...
What does the throwing toys from a cot have to do with car? And goddamnit, it is ground, not Earth. I was reading that and was picturing the fucking Earth not doing it's job an orbiting...
-Tim
I was actually pissed that I had to read it. This is all getting pretty ridiculous of you ask me. And very irritating. 17 pages later I find myself more irritated, that I had to read it all, than entertained.
