lol - you have to understand what my wife went through as a result of all this, she is entitled to be still a little emotionally charged about it. She is a US citizen, and she loves Americans just like i do. Maybe not all Americans anymore than all kiwis Trust me, we are not anti-America quite the opposite.
lol - you have to understand what my wife went through as a result of all this, she is entitled to be still a little emotionally charged about it. She is a US citizen, and she loves Americans just like i do. Maybe not all Americans anymore than all kiwis Trust me, we are not anti-America quite the opposite
Back on topic: The bottom line is that neither Krazpsi, nor I, nor Ray (thnkbig) have needed to hide behind AE's, we've come out as oursevles, said what we needed to say, and this is backed up by workshops around the place that have or have had Heffner cars in them sorting out problems they either should not have had, or that Heffner should have fixed for them.
As a result a BUNCH of customers have walked, and they aren't the last - nothing to do with my thread, this is everything to do with their personal experience.
So - the nutswingers and AE cowards and naysayers can say whatever they want - it doesn't change anything.
The workshops concerned cleaning up afterwards are not going to chime in because it looks bad form, so we have chimed in, because we can. Anyone has a problem with that, too bad, a lot more of you have appreciated it. I know because of the support we've had privately.
You're starting to piss me off.
First of all, what's with the "we" shit mentioning Krazy and others names? There is no WE - as I can tell you never were a customer of Heffner in terms of buying an engine package. You also have *zero* demonstated ability to run a performance tuning shop. So other than being a fucking dork on the internet who reads magazines and technical books and thinks he knows everything, what precisely is the relevance of your commentary on Heffners ability as a businessman and engine builder? That's right - you have none because you've never been able to accomplish what he has. That's why you were jizzing all over yourself when he seemed receptive to your embellished line of bullshit - this was your chance to make it. Like an ugly guy who got the phone number of a hot chick on the Internet, you wasted *no* time packing up everything and rushing to meet your new lay. Except when you arrived she realized you were an ugly penniless dork and shunned you. Then you went around all your friends and said she was just a whore anyway.
I haven't seen Krazy or your wunderkind engineer buddy posting on this topic, so stop talking in terms of "we". "We" didn't have a bad experience with Heffner, *YOU* did, and the reason you did is because you sold yourself as some top shelf CFO guy who can make a serious impact to the bottom line of his business.
All you needed was a chance. A chance and an apartment. A chance and an apartment was all you needed. And a job and apartment for your friend. All you needed was a chance, a job for your friend and apartments for you both. And money to buy food. All you needed was a chance, a job for your friend, apartments for you both, and money. And time and executive control. All you needed was a chance, a job for your friend, sweet apartments for you both, time and executive control.
But in return, Heffner was to benefit from your vast experience at the CFO level position - a job you experienced much success in. Just not enough success to be able to piss away on extravagances like, you know, food and stuff.
It's extremely telling that all the bullshit is coming strictly from your side. You sold Heffner on a bill of goods that turned out to be absolute crap. Ironically you accuse him of doing the same to his customers - many of whom are very unhappy and gone elsewhere, they just don't post about it and the ones who do post are happy with Heffner, except for your buddy from back home and Krazy who appears legitimately unhappy but I am sure would even admit himself is not unbiased as owner of Heff's biggest competitor. So you have a story with more holes in it than the pair of underwear you've been nursing along for the past 8 years that your Goldman Sachs CFO-level pay couldn't afford to replace.
Just stop. The more you post the worse you look. It's so plainly obvious what went down and clear for all the world to see. Your big Heffner expose plan went over about as well as your Heffner 10-year plan. I'm sure it was equally well conceived.
If you had any business sense and tuning ability you would be doing it, not talking about how others screwed you out of doing it. If there was any truth to your Goldman Sachs/CFO claims you wouldn't be hurting to buy bread after 5 weeks in this county. If there was any truth to your history of success, you wouldn't be packing the wife and kids and flying around the globe on short notice and no contract to try to capitalize on someone else's good name and success.
The best analogy is the guy who talks to the hot chick online. He wants her so bad. He makes up stories and fabrications. He tells her he's a secret agent for the CIA. He talks about his 100' yacht and private jet. He feigns frustration over losing his Patek watch - not due to the cost but because of the delay in replacing it. He pretends to have other calls coming in about "multimillion dollar global deals" as he's wooing this girl on the phone. She has her pick of guys but finally relents and gives this guy a non-committal charity date to a crowded area where she knows she can ditch him.
When the 5'6" shrimp shows up in his primered Pinto, a Timex and Husky jeans she does her best to contain her laughter as she tells him to go find someone in his league, possibly at Weight Watchers or the old folks home.
And you spend 3 years telling everyone she was a dirty whore anyway.
You cock-a-roach!
EDIT:
Shit, I didn't realize this was in the Viper forum.... Trey I am guessing this post qualifies as smack, but IMO so does TM's post, because he's making NON first-hand claims about Hef's engine builds (shouldn't it be the wronged customer to speak up rather than the biased fired employee?)
If my post needs edited, feel free, or maybe we can move the thread to AG since it seems to have little to do with Vipers and tuning anyway???
If you need me to edit/delete it, just hit me up - you know I'm your bitch
Last edited by SRT Mike : April 17th, 2008 at 07:32 PM.
First of all, what's with the "we" shit mentioning Krazy and others names? There is no WE - as I can tell you never were a customer of Heffner in terms of buying an engine package. You also have *zero* demonstated ability to run a performance tuning shop. So other than being a fucking dork on the internet who reads magazines and technical books and thinks he knows everything, what precisely is the relevance of your commentary on Heffners ability as a businessman and engine builder? That's right - you have none because you've never been able to accomplish what he has. That's why you were jizzing all over yourself when he seemed receptive to your embellished line of bullshit - this was your chance to make it. Like an ugly guy who got the phone number of a hot chick on the Internet, you wasted *no* time packing up everything and rushing to meet your new lay. Except when you arrived she realized you were an ugly penniless dork and shunned you. Then you went around all your friends and said she was just a whore anyway.
I haven't seen Krazy or your wunderkind engineer buddy posting on this topic, so stop talking in terms of "we". "We" didn't have a bad experience with Heffner, *YOU* did, and the reason you did is because you sold yourself as some top shelf CFO guy who can make a serious impact to the bottom line of his business.
All you needed was a chance. A chance and an apartment. A chance and an apartment was all you needed. And a job and apartment for your friend. All you needed was a chance, a job for your friend and apartments for you both. And money to buy food. All you needed was a chance, a job for your friend, apartments for you both, and money. And time and executive control. All you needed was a chance, a job for your friend, sweet apartments for you both, time and executive control.
But in return, Heffner was to benefit from your vast experience at the CFO level position - a job you experienced much success in. Just not enough success to be able to piss away on extravagances like, you know, food and stuff.
It's extremely telling that all the bullshit is coming strictly from your side. You sold Heffner on a bill of goods that turned out to be absolute crap. Ironically you accuse him of doing the same to his customers - many of whom are very unhappy and gone elsewhere, they just don't post about it and the ones who do post are happy with Heffner, except for your buddy from back home and Krazy who appears legitimately unhappy but I am sure would even admit himself is not unbiased as owner of Heff's biggest competitor. So you have a story with more holes in it than the pair of underwear you've been nursing along for the past 8 years that your Goldman Sachs CFO-level pay couldn't afford to replace.
Just stop. The more you post the worse you look. It's so plainly obvious what went down and clear for all the world to see. Your big Heffner expose plan went over about as well as your Heffner 10-year plan. I'm sure it was equally well conceived.
If you had any business sense and tuning ability you would be doing it, not talking about how others screwed you out of doing it. If there was any truth to your Goldman Sachs/CFO claims you wouldn't be hurting to buy bread after 5 weeks in this county. If there was any truth to your history of success, you wouldn't be packing the wife and kids and flying around the globe on short notice and no contract to try to capitalize on someone else's good name and success.
The best analogy is the guy who talks to the hot chick online. He wants her so bad. He makes up stories and fabrications. He tells her he's a secret agent for the CIA. He talks about his 100' yacht and private jet. He feigns frustration over losing his Patek watch - not due to the cost but because of the delay in replacing it. He pretends to have other calls coming in about "multimillion dollar global deals" as he's wooing this girl on the phone. She has her pick of guys but finally relents and gives this guy a non-committal charity date to a crowded area where she knows she can ditch him.
When the 5'6" shrimp shows up in his primered Pinto, a Timex and Husky jeans she does her best to contain her laughter as she tells him to go find someone in his league, possibly at Weight Watchers or the old folks home.
And you spend 3 years telling everyone she was a dirty whore anyway.
You cock-a-roach!
EDIT:
Shit, I didn't realize this was in the Viper forum.... Trey I am guessing this post qualifies as smack, but IMO so does TM's post, because he's making NON first-hand claims about Hef's engine builds (shouldn't it be the wronged customer to speak up rather than the biased fired employee?)
If my post needs edited, feel free, or maybe we can move the thread to AG since it seems to have little to do with Vipers and tuning anyway???
If you need me to edit/delete it, just hit me up - you know I'm your bitch
This post is "in bounds" for Viper Discussions Mike.
First of all, what's with the "we" shit mentioning Krazy and others names? There is no WE - as I can tell you never were a customer of Heffner in terms of buying an engine package. You also have *zero* demonstated ability to run a performance tuning shop. So other than being a fucking dork on the internet who reads magazines and technical books and thinks he knows everything, what precisely is the relevance of your commentary on Heffners ability as a businessman and engine builder? That's right - you have none because you've never been able to accomplish what he has. That's why you were jizzing all over yourself when he seemed receptive to your embellished line of bullshit - this was your chance to make it. Like an ugly guy who got the phone number of a hot chick on the Internet, you wasted *no* time packing up everything and rushing to meet your new lay. Except when you arrived she realized you were an ugly penniless dork and shunned you. Then you went around all your friends and said she was just a whore anyway.
I haven't seen Krazy or your wunderkind engineer buddy posting on this topic, so stop talking in terms of "we". "We" didn't have a bad experience with Heffner, *YOU* did, and the reason you did is because you sold yourself as some top shelf CFO guy who can make a serious impact to the bottom line of his business.
All you needed was a chance. A chance and an apartment. A chance and an apartment was all you needed. And a job and apartment for your friend. All you needed was a chance, a job for your friend and apartments for you both. And money to buy food. All you needed was a chance, a job for your friend, apartments for you both, and money. And time and executive control. All you needed was a chance, a job for your friend, sweet apartments for you both, time and executive control.
But in return, Heffner was to benefit from your vast experience at the CFO level position - a job you experienced much success in. Just not enough success to be able to piss away on extravagances like, you know, food and stuff.
It's extremely telling that all the bullshit is coming strictly from your side. You sold Heffner on a bill of goods that turned out to be absolute crap. Ironically you accuse him of doing the same to his customers - many of whom are very unhappy and gone elsewhere, they just don't post about it and the ones who do post are happy with Heffner, except for your buddy from back home and Krazy who appears legitimately unhappy but I am sure would even admit himself is not unbiased as owner of Heff's biggest competitor. So you have a story with more holes in it than the pair of underwear you've been nursing along for the past 8 years that your Goldman Sachs CFO-level pay couldn't afford to replace.
Just stop. The more you post the worse you look. It's so plainly obvious what went down and clear for all the world to see. Your big Heffner expose plan went over about as well as your Heffner 10-year plan. I'm sure it was equally well conceived.
If you had any business sense and tuning ability you would be doing it, not talking about how others screwed you out of doing it. If there was any truth to your Goldman Sachs/CFO claims you wouldn't be hurting to buy bread after 5 weeks in this county. If there was any truth to your history of success, you wouldn't be packing the wife and kids and flying around the globe on short notice and no contract to try to capitalize on someone else's good name and success.
The best analogy is the guy who talks to the hot chick online. He wants her so bad. He makes up stories and fabrications. He tells her he's a secret agent for the CIA. He talks about his 100' yacht and private jet. He feigns frustration over losing his Patek watch - not due to the cost but because of the delay in replacing it. He pretends to have other calls coming in about "multimillion dollar global deals" as he's wooing this girl on the phone. She has her pick of guys but finally relents and gives this guy a non-committal charity date to a crowded area where she knows she can ditch him.
When the 5'6" shrimp shows up in his primered Pinto, a Timex and Husky jeans she does her best to contain her laughter as she tells him to go find someone in his league, possibly at Weight Watchers or the old folks home.
And you spend 3 years telling everyone she was a dirty whore anyway.
You cock-a-roach!
EDIT:
Shit, I didn't realize this was in the Viper forum.... Trey I am guessing this post qualifies as smack, but IMO so does TM's post, because he's making NON first-hand claims about Hef's engine builds (shouldn't it be the wronged customer to speak up rather than the biased fired employee?)
If my post needs edited, feel free, or maybe we can move the thread to AG since it seems to have little to do with Vipers and tuning anyway???
If you need me to edit/delete it, just hit me up - you know I'm your bitch
SRT Mike. Some points of clarification here. You are posting a position in this thread as though you were present at Heffner's when Barry was there and we all know you weren't. You have zero first hand experience in anything related to this subject. I have refrained from posting in this thread because I wasn't there either. You need to stop making an association between Barry and UGR because there is none. You even admitted such in that lame ass thread in anything goes.
I am not an owner of UGR and never speak for UGR. I have zero monetary benefit from any present or future profits from UGR. I am funding some special projects with them because I have found UGR to be employing the latest technologies and highest quality in their builds. I am doing this because I want everyone to have access to the top technologies and I'm willing to fund the development.
I was an unhappy Heffner customer long before I even looked into UGR, the two again are not related. Repeated attempt to link the two are without merit and should desist.
Now I can see why the euro or Acu will replace the $.
Hey, if you're somehow implying that Americans are stupid, recognize that a Canadian, an Aussie, and a Kiwi are complaining that an American took advantage of them.
I am not the implying type in case you have not worked that out, nor have I claimed to of been taken advantage of.
Just felt the green card issue was of no relevance to this in any way shape or form, nor is the reason for Barry and Jason not working together.
Its simple, is Heffners the place to go now or not ? For those with a good deal so far, go for it. For those with a bum deal go elsewhere. For those yet to decide, this will help if every one leaves the personal sh#t at home.
I am not the implying type in case you have not worked that out, nor have I claimed to of been taken advantage of.
Well, if you weren't implying anything, then that means you were literally meaning that this thread was somehow responsible for the devaluation of the dollar.
Which casts an entirely new light on things.
1A) KRAZYPSI is Canadian and holds assets in Canadian dollars
1B) Therefore, KRAZYPSI would be even richer if Canadian dollars rose against the US dollar
2A) KRAZYPSI is very rich
2B) Therefore, KRAZYPSI is part of the Illuminati and may be a Rothschild
3A) KRAZYPSI started these threads as a mechanism to devalue the dollar, to get even richer, and is using his Illuminati powers to do so
3B) Therefore, Heffner has central market power over the US economy
3C) Which means that Heffner is either Bernanke or Bernanke's secret lover.
4A) Therefore, around 2002 or so TM presented his ten year plan to someone who is actually Bernanke or Bernanke's secret lover.
4B) Said 10 year plan *is being followed now*
4C) The Mayan calendar ends on 2012, ten years after 2002.
4D) Which means that TM's 10 year plan is designed to bring about the collapse of the US dollar and, then, appropriately, the end of the world
I think the other conclusions need not be implied. But I'm calling Art Bell right now.
Well, if you weren't implying anything, then that means you were literally meaning that this thread was somehow responsible for the devaluation of the dollar.
Which casts an entirely new light on things.
1A) KRAZYPSI is Canadian and holds assets in Canadian dollars
1B) Therefore, KRAZYPSI would be even richer if Canadian dollars rose against the US dollar
2A) KRAZYPSI is very rich
2B) Therefore, KRAZYPSI is part of the Illuminati and may be a Rothschild
3A) KRAZYPSI started these threads as a mechanism to devalue the dollar, to get even richer, and is using his Illuminati powers to do so
3B) Therefore, Heffner has central market power over the US economy
3C) Which means that Heffner is either Bernanke or Bernanke's secret lover.
4A) Therefore, around 2002 or so TM presented his ten year plan to someone who is actually Bernanke or Bernanke's secret lover.
4B) Said 10 year plan *is being followed now*
4C) The Mayan calendar ends on 2012, ten years after 2002.
4D) Which means that TM's 10 year plan is designed to bring about the collapse of the US dollar and, then, appropriately, the end of the world
I think the other conclusions need not be implied. But I'm calling Art Bell right now.
Wow.. I's interesting how your mind works... You can almost see the wheels turning.
Why doesn't Heffner step up and give his side of the story? If I were the one accused I would be on here asap with my version. I see a lot of people speaking for him, but he is silent. Seems to me he would be on here doing damage control.
Jason give your side so this thread can die. The drama in this thread is exhausting.
Why doesn't Heffner step up and give his side of the story? If I were the one accused I would be on here asap with my version. I see a lot of people speaking for him, but he is silent. Seems to me he would be on here doing damage control.
Jason give your side so this thread can die. The drama in this thread is exhausting.
Maybe he realizes getting in an argument over a Internet forum makes him/his company look foolish and immature.
I'll give him much respect if he stays out of this and keeps it private, but what I think doesn't matter anyway
Why doesn't Heffner step up and give his side of the story? If I were the one accused I would be on here asap with my version. I see a lot of people speaking for him, but he is silent. Seems to me he would be on here doing damage control.
Jason give your side so this thread can die. The drama in this thread is exhausting.
Actually, I was thinking that his non-appearance was the smart thing to do.