WE went 9.75 @ 143 on a 26x8 DOT tires ans a split second..lol and 10.50 on 19" run flats "stock tires"
96 Stock everything other than Blower, catback and fuel system.
- great numbers.... but i have a few questions for you that i hope you may answer, one being that those numbers seem a little to good to be true for the price/mods.... but also keep in mind i am fairly new to the viper scene and have not soaked in much information about it...... but from what i understand ( correct me if i am wrong ) is that a viper with 901rwhp should have better 1/4 times then a 9.75.... also i would like to add is that if 901rwhp were in all actuality possible just from a "blower, catback, and a fuel system" is that it would be EXTREMELY unreliable.... and realistically, dangerous to drive ( once again correct me if i am wrong )
- now with all that being said, i noticed everyone was all "hip hip hurray", which is fine but.... no one really questioned the variables/conditions when this dyno produced the 901rwhp, so what were they?...... and also this is very important...... was the 901rwhp CORRECTED, or UNCORRECTED?
- ALSO...... i would like to point out the fact that dyno numbers are useless, they just give you an *ESTIMATE* of where your car is truely at, not every car can be dyno'd in the same conditions using the same variables..... on top of that, you can make any dyno pretty much give you w/e number you desire ( to a certain extent )
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i am not trying to sound like a smartass, nor take anything away from UGR.... i am just trying to better edjucate myself on the vipers true potential
*EDIT**
- i would like to mention...... that everything i wrote above is all information i have picked up through reading, and not an actual text book etc etc.... so there is a possiblity that i might have interpreted the information wrong ( i doubt it but..... there is always that possiblity )
- great numbers.... but i have a few questions for you that i hope you may answer, one being that those numbers seem a little to good to be true for the price/mods.... but also keep in mind i am fairly new to the viper scene and have not soaked in much information about it...... but from what i understand ( correct me if i am wrong ) is that a viper with 901rwhp should have better 1/4 times then a 9.75.... also i would like to add is that if 901rwhp were in all actuality possible just from a "blower, catback, and a fuel system" is that it would be EXTREMELY unreliable.... and realistically, dangerous to drive ( once again correct me if i am wrong )
- now with all that being said, i noticed everyone was all "hip hip hurray", which is fine but.... no one really questioned the variables/conditions when this dyno produced the 901rwhp, so what were they?...... and also this is very important...... was the 901rwhp CORRECTED, or UNCORRECTED?
- ALSO...... i would like to point out the fact that dyno numbers are useless, they just give you an *ESTIMATE* of where your car is truely at, not every car can be dyno'd in the same conditions using the same variables..... on top of that, you can make any dyno pretty much give you w/e number you desire ( to a certain extent )
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i am not trying to sound like a smartass, nor take anything away from UGR.... i am just trying to better edjucate myself on the vipers true potential
~Steveo
your wrong.
UGR has made more then a few 900whp beasts on this simple "blow, exhaust, fuel system"... 96-99 had forged pistions.. and im SURE the drivablity is great.... traction problems is why the low ET. look at the MPH...
- great numbers.... but i have a few questions for you that i hope you may answer, one being that those numbers seem a little to good to be true for the price/mods.... but also keep in mind i am fairly new to the viper scene and have not soaked in much information about it...... but from what i understand ( correct me if i am wrong ) is that a viper with 901rwhp should have better 1/4 times then a 9.75.... also i would like to add is that if 901rwhp were in all actuality possible just from a "blower, catback, and a fuel system" is that it would be EXTREMELY unreliable.... and realistically, dangerous to drive ( once again correct me if i am wrong )
- now with all that being said, i noticed everyone was all "hip hip hurray", which is fine but.... no one really questioned the variables/conditions when this dyno produced the 901rwhp, so what were they?...... and also this is very important...... was the 901rwhp CORRECTED, or UNCORRECTED?
- ALSO...... i would like to point out the fact that dyno numbers are useless, they just give you an *ESTIMATE* of where your car is truely at, not every car can be dyno'd in the same conditions using the same variables..... on top of that, you can make any dyno pretty much give you w/e number you desire ( to a certain extent )
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i am not trying to sound like a smartass, nor take anything away from UGR.... i am just trying to better edjucate myself on the vipers true potential
*EDIT**
- i would like to mention...... that everything i wrote above is all information i have picked up through reading, and not an actual text book etc etc.... so there is a possiblity that i might have interpreted the information wrong ( i doubt it but..... there is always that possiblity )
- great numbers.... but i have a few questions for you that i hope you may answer, one being that those numbers seem a little to good to be true for the price/mods.... but also keep in mind i am fairly new to the viper scene and have not soaked in much information about it...... but from what i understand ( correct me if i am wrong ) is that a viper with 901rwhp should have better 1/4 times then a 9.75.... also i would like to add is that if 901rwhp were in all actuality possible just from a "blower, catback, and a fuel system" is that it would be EXTREMELY unreliable.... and realistically, dangerous to drive ( once again correct me if i am wrong )
When we first came to the Viper world we did this on the first Viper we worked on and it made a lot of people have the same questions and concerns as you. There were a lot of people that said that it was going to blow up and that it would never make a pass down the track. We decided to take it to a Viper Nationals and the first four passes on street tires it put down 10.50's on regular stock tires every pass. Then we bolted up some CCW drag wheels with only 8" street slicks and on our 3rd run we ran a 9.75 @ 143 which set the Boost only blower record. It was faster than any other blower Viper with some even having built motors had done. From there that same Viper with a stock motor and heads won a Viper Nationals on ESPN and a second place finish at the next one. That car took an extreme beating and never skipped a beat! It also only had a Split second tuning box which now we use the AEM. I think we could run some 9.50s at least on good track conditions now with what we have learned. When the new owner bought that same Viper he wanted to do a TT and a stroker. When we pulled that STOCK engine down and inspected the short block look perfect!!!
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- now with all that being said, i noticed everyone was all "hip hip hurray", which is fine but.... no one really questioned the variables/conditions when this dyno produced the 901rwhp, so what were they?...... and also this is very important...... was the 901rwhp CORRECTED, or UNCORRECTED?
The 901 SAE corrected power was on cool conditions with the Viper cooled off. IF it is heat soaked like any other car it could lose up to 10%.
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- ALSO...... i would like to point out the fact that dyno numbers are useless, they just give you an *ESTIMATE* of where your car is truely at, not every car can be dyno'd in the same conditions using the same variables..... on top of that, you can make any dyno pretty much give you w/e number you desire ( to a certain extent )
Dyno's are not useless in my opinion but I agree with you on some of it and that's why you MUST make sure the tuner/builder of your choice has backed up his claims on the track!!!! If all Underground Racing has done was to be Dyno Queens I would see you having a point. Remember we have backed up these HP claims at the track over and over again.
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- i am not trying to sound like a smartass, nor take anything away from UGR.... i am just trying to better edjucate myself on the vipers true potential
Hope this has helped.
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Originally Posted by nikolov09
- - i would like to mention...... that everything i wrote above is all information i have picked up through reading, and not an actual text book etc etc.... so there is a possiblity that i might have interpreted the information wrong ( i doubt it but..... there is always that possiblity )
Thanks for your questions and concerns and if you want more detailed information give me a call anytime..
Thanks, Kevin
704-361-3443
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If all Underground Racing has done was to be Dyno Queens I would see you having a point. Remember we have backed up these HP claims at the track over and over again.
Hope this has helped.
Thanks for your questions and concerns and if you want more detailed information give me a call anytime..
Thanks, Kevin
704-361-3443
And this is why I chose to go with Underground Racing. They have proven time and time again to be the best at what they do.
Again, I noticed something was mentioned about running 15 psi. Isn't this really hard on a stock forged motor?
It's towards the upper end of what I would want to run, but as long as the tune is good (and with KC tuning, I betcha it is very good), 15 pounds should be fine.
Again, I noticed something was mentioned about running 15 psi. Isn't this really hard on a stock forged motor?
Im guessing if my car is set up like this that its reliable. These guys have done more then enough of these cars and Im pretty sure they know what the limits are. Kevin may have to chime in on what the limitations of the engine are. All I know is that when Kevin asked me what I wanted I told him that it had to be a safe daily driver and not a drag car and that is what they gave me.
Congrats on the numbers. Enjoy it and most of all be carefull.
What octane was used and did it it use water/meth?
I'm certainly not trying to speak for the tuner or the owner, but because I just happened to be standing there when they actually dyno'd the car, I do have some of those answers.
The car was dyno'd on 93 octane pump gas and the water/meth system that is included in the $14,900 UGR Paxton system.
I'm certainly not trying to speak for the tuner or the owner, but because I just happened to be standing there when they actually dyno'd the car, I do have some of those answers.
The car was dyno'd on 93 octane pump gas and the water/meth system that is included in the $14,900 UGR Paxton system.
You really don't have a fucking clue do you?
