Simple question: why would a business like Heffners fuck over an extremely wealthy client who pays 50+GRR for a turbo system on multiple cars voluntarily?? Isn't that like shitting where you eat? Or fucking your girlfriend, in the garage, at the same time your wife comes home every day?
Man, what a cluster fuck. It is just a guess here, but I would imagine Heff isn't responding because he would be embarrassed by being associated with this circle jerk.
Kevin and Krazy's smack is great, but the clan is a little lacking.
Krazy, glad to see you back on your game. Another thought though, your new Lambo and GT crowd will probably not care for the Supra-esq baby trolls that applaud your efforts here. I think you would be hard pressed to find a Johnny Lighting for example on 6-Speed looking to TT their Murci or Gallardo, rather at the swap days looking for a hubcap to their vinless 74 half Cuda/Challenger. I think it would be hysterical to see how impossible it would be for there to be a thread between two tuners only. There are just too many dyno jockeys that must hangout all day over there. I think Kevin holds the record for groupies as well, one that I can't imagine him being proud of.
Kevin being at the top of the food chain right now, with a great new partner with unlimited funds to make something even more successful, I personally would baby cock punt the Johnny Lightnings of the world for associating themselves with my company. With filter less supercharger in their mod want list, I certainly wouldn't say he is living proof of what UGR is capable of, rather a person drooling over the nuts of someone's success.
And Jason B, for the love of the hair on the mole under your sister's fourth chin, let the big boys play. You asking when these guys are going to step up is just fucking ridiculous. When there is a thread titled nut shiner, then post. You are one cock shy of an opossum, which leaves you as being_____________ STFU already and bench yourself. Watch the pathetic reach for attention from their master from Johnny and decide for yourself how pathetic that truly is.
And Jason B, for the love of the hair on the mole under your sister's fourth chin, let the big boys play. You asking when these guys are going to step up is just fucking ridiculous. When there is a thread titled nut shiner, then post. You are one cock shy of an opossum, which leaves you as being_____________ STFU already and bench yourself. Watch the pathetic reach for attention from their master from Johnny and decide for yourself how pathetic that truly is.
You call that a E beating??
Don't make me get your best buddy common to put you in your place
Just don't start a thread about getting me banned ok?
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Exactly.....maybe no one really got fucked over. There are always two sides to every story
In plain english - I believe the claim was that Krazypsi had two prolonged and unhappy experiences and that both cars were NOT good quality or good value for money... is that impossible to believe?
Two sides?
Of course, the other side would have to be it just all got too hard.
I know I'd like to not be able to start my car when it got hot, or jump around in traffic like a bunny, or catch fire. Yip - be really cool.
I've watched 2 other buddies suffer other shit from the same after sales service for 2 years and not said a word here. So don't think Krazypsi is the only one or that the allegations came out of someones ass.
Why act so amazed - have you been hypnotized by the bling, or the fast drive while the heads still kept a seal?
In my book, if any customer of any tuner has a prolonged unhappy experience that is due to poor tune and/or after sales service - they have the right to feel pissed. For frigs sake, the guy stayed loyal for 3 fucking years!!! I've dealt with Krazypsi, he is not an unreasonable man!!
End of story, move along.
He also has the right to invest in a venture that will show how it should be done. Nobody knows what real quality is until they see a contrast.
If Krazypsi's simple challenge and the truth why he changed tuner hurts someones feelings then my guess is that it can only get worse from this point on.
WAR far out man, it's hot in here... Bruno! You're on fire Bruno
TM - I hate to say this, but let's be honest with ourselves. You're not exactly an 'unbiased' source here for info about Heffner.
It's funny because I'm sure that every tuner has problems, but Heffner has maintained an almost impeccable image online which is unique in the Viper Community. How has he done that?
Don't make me get your best buddy common to put you in your place
Just don't start a thread about getting me banned ok?
I didn't call it anything. You are like Brittney Spears....just a little pathetic and overplayed. No need to ban you either as in 10 years, I am sure you will have a Gen 1 and can contribute something. It is funny you seek refuge in someone like Common....that is just icing on the cake.
I didn't call it anything. You are like Brittney Spears....just a little pathetic and overplayed. No need to ban you either as in 10 years, I am sure you will have a Gen 1 and can contribute something. It is funny you seek refuge in someone like Common....that is just icing on the cake.
Don't forget your Flinstones before bedtime.
What is even more funny is the fact that you think I actually seek refuge in common.
Ohh and thanks for the familey take in the other post about my sister...I could pull a CUNTIFIED move like you did with your buddy common and rant and rave about getting you banned, But my vagina is sand proof.
Its the Internet Brady, Don't take it so serious.
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two prolonged and unhappy experiences and that both cars were NOT good quality or good value for money... is that impossible to believe?
Then why not either keep it completely confidential or spill the beans? Its seems cowardly to take shots at a guy you were loyal to for years, then find a whole new tuner and praise them when a few years ago you didnt think about them.
Ah man alive, 10 pages and no real answer to Chris's origional challange yet? What happened to the good ol days of answering the call out with in the first page?
TM - I hate to say this, but let's be honest with ourselves. You're not exactly an 'unbiased' source here for info about Heffner.
It's funny because I'm sure that every tuner has problems, but Heffner has maintained an almost impeccable image online which is unique in the Viper Community. How has he done that?
With all due respect I have been very professional about my entire involvement with Heffner, and I assume he has been the same in return. If he hasn't at least it has not come back to me.
I have not indulged myself on this matter though I could have, all I have done is tried to keep to the real issues without attacking anyone.
But to call me biased is a bit rich. If Heffner created the worlds best car why would I be jealous or hating? I simply do not care, good for him, if he managed to grow to that level I'd say fantastic for him.
Let me ask you, would I be biased because I brought a real engineer out with me to look over the work and workshop to see how things were done and could be done better?
Would I be biased because I can contrast everything I saw with my own eyes with my own personal experience in other setups?
Or would I be biased because I have buddies that have been extremely pissed off and these are VERY very patient people?
I did not get involved, but could have, and I would have been far less diplomatic and would have got action a long time ago, but it was not my business, and so I watched the whole thing play out for 2 years and it is still going on right now with parts "in perpectual transit".
I am backing up Krazypsi because he spoke the truth from his own experience and that mirrored that of others I know, and some personal knowledge.
I do not doubt there are many happy customers, I met several. Great - try to find anywhere I have posted anything that would warn people from going there. I never have.
So who is unbiased here?
Heffner customers?
I will say it again - until you have a contrast to compare to - very few here understand even what this is all about. Fine, keep spending your money where it makes you happy.
When discerning customers experience real quality in product and service and the entire experience, when they compare notes with others 2,3, 5 years down the track, when they get independent experts to look under their cars and view the work alongside something that is really top notch.... THEN the whole picture begins to emerge.
Everything is like new on delivery and down the track until something goes wrong... regardless of tuner.
The only sin I have been guilty of on these matters is from day one here I have said there is room for improvement.
No one got it then, a few are catching on now. It will create a virtual wave before it is over not because anything I said or did, but because someone else learned the truth for themselves and decided to do something about it.
Watch and see - within 2 years you will see a different landscape here as surely as the sun sets tonight. Personalities have nothing to do with it.
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What is even more funny is the fact that you think I actually seek refuge in common.
Ohh and thanks for the familey take in the other post about my sister...I could pull a CUNTIFIED move like you did with your buddy common and rant and rave about getting you banned, But my vigina is sand proof.
Its the Internet Brady, Don't take it so serious.
Do you have a sister? I mentioned a mole on a chin you crybaby, not a steaming chin omelet with a side of duckbutter. Also, did I post anything remotely close to having Common banned? In fact I PM'd him and tried to give him some advice. Far from anything banning related leg dribble.
I am proud that you are taking the first steps in realizing that you have a vagina. Once you actually have something to lose, you may see it get a little gritty from time to time. And for the love of God, I don't take you seriously in the least. You are a cross between a terrible editor for Car & Driver, and the douche that posts his Pinto in readers rides, kind of a hybrid pre-pubescent douche blindly feeling his way through tuner cock heaven until he finally finds the one he wants to suck on. How could you possibly be taken seriously? I find more humor in the occassional sighting of corn in my shit than anything you have ever posted.
Then why not either keep it completely confidential or spill the beans? Its seems cowardly to take shots at a guy you were loyal to for years, then find a whole new tuner and praise them when a few years ago you didnt think about them.
think about what you are writing dude!
People make their living from this. It is one thing to say "I'm pissed and not coming back" and throw out a few one liners why, it is entirely another to give a blow by blow account.
If courage was involved at all, it would be in NOT telling all. Think about it!
Barry - Fair enough! I have another question. Based on your past commentary and prose on turbo system design and implementation: whose turbo systems are superior in design at this point: UGR or Paolo?
Barry - Fair enough! I have another question. Based on your past commentary and prose on turbo system design and implementation: whose turbo systems are superior in design at this point: UGR or Paolo?
Ah man alive, 10 pages and no real answer to Chris's origional challange yet? What happened to the good ol days of answering the call out with in the first page?
Riddle me this Batman ?? Hell, Torque.....feel free to answer yourself since you keep whining over it.
Why on earth would anyone want to grudge race at Pinks all Out ? That's what....150 cars of all varieties racing and then they pick a group to race for the money. Going to line up a high dollar car beside a 25k Mustang that could cross the line at any time ?
Or did Poup-on mean "Pinks"
Now, if a special deal/event between two cars could be worked to happen at a Pinks all Out....it could be interesting.
Oh yea....a friggin' call out on a car that is [quote] "SOON TO BE BUILT"
See the problem there.....is the car built yet ?? THEN STFU already
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